CWC: NZ vs SA
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@nzzp said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
ehh, we're in the semis unless we drop both games to Pakistan and SL. Then it's a one off day, who executes. I'd still see SA in the semi over Aus or India.
I think the final is going to be between India and SA. Tipping India go win it at home.
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@akan004 said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
@nzzp said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
ehh, we're in the semis unless we drop both games to Pakistan and SL. Then it's a one off day, who executes. I'd still see SA in the semi over Aus or India.
I think the final is going to be between India and SA. Tipping India go win it at home.
100%
India red hot favourites. SA will choke, Aus can't play spin, and we're a starters chance of another mental game against them. But it's theirs to lose.
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Damn!
Greedy Jaapies!
@MN5 - Neesh used to be a halfway decent death bowler, though he could never bowl 6 good balls - he's cannon fodder these days.
I hope the news that Kane and Ferg are close to fit - and Henry's departure was precautionary - is right, because we're very short on players - and seam options - and a quick turnaround with Pakistan on Saturday.
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@Chris-B said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
Damn!
Greedy Jaapies!
@MN5 - Neesh used to be a halfway decent death bowler, though he could never bowl 6 good balls - he's cannon fodder these days.
I hope the news that Kane and Ferg are close to fit - and Henry's departure was precautionary - is right, because we're very short on players - and seam options - and a quick turnaround with Pakistan on Saturday.
Bloody Neesh.
I still hold out vain hope that he’ll become our version of Ben Stokes in the longer version of the game. That would be nice.
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Cant believe we opted to bowl against a team that struggles when bowling first and the conditions at that ground dont always favour batting second.
To make matters worse we just had injuries upon injuries, will be interesting if we field a full team next match -
@bayimports Whatever the thinking was on that - it appears to have backfired pretty spectacularly.
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@nzzp said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
ehh, we're in the semis unless we drop both games to Pakistan and SL. Then it's a one off day, who executes. I'd still see SA in the semi over Aus or India.
Our net run rate has blown out the back door faster than their dinner from Pune. Essentially taking us from easily making semis to possibly not making the semis. If we do, will only finish fourth at best right now
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@Bovidae said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
It would be typical of Pakistan to beat NZ.
Yes. I’ve always thought Pakistan are like the French Rugby team. Capable of massive wins alongside brainfarty losses.
I can’t comment on the Pakistani Rugby team or the French cricket team though.
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@MN5 said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
@Chris-B said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
Damn!
Greedy Jaapies!
@MN5 - Neesh used to be a halfway decent death bowler, though he could never bowl 6 good balls - he's cannon fodder these days.
I hope the news that Kane and Ferg are close to fit - and Henry's departure was precautionary - is right, because we're very short on players - and seam options - and a quick turnaround with Pakistan on Saturday.
Bloody Neesh.
I still hold out vain hope that he’ll become our version of Ben Stokes in the longer version of the game. That would be nice.
Never going to happen. He hasn’t been able to bowl at a consistently high level for a long time. Hasn’t bowled a decent spell since Lords 2019.
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@ACT-Crusader said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
@MN5 said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
@Chris-B said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
Damn!
Greedy Jaapies!
@MN5 - Neesh used to be a halfway decent death bowler, though he could never bowl 6 good balls - he's cannon fodder these days.
I hope the news that Kane and Ferg are close to fit - and Henry's departure was precautionary - is right, because we're very short on players - and seam options - and a quick turnaround with Pakistan on Saturday.
Bloody Neesh.
I still hold out vain hope that he’ll become our version of Ben Stokes in the longer version of the game. That would be nice.
Never going to happen. He hasn’t been able to bowl at a consistently high level for a long time. Hasn’t bowled a decent spell since Lords 2019.
Stokes is a non bowling all rounder too though. I fail to see much difference
I just get frustrated cos I think in terms of talent he could have really stepped up as a really good test all rounder.
Fern favourite Colin De Grandhomme did a pretty decent job though it must be said.
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@Donsteppa said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
The Black Caps Brains Trust
Not giving them a practice go against us in the round-robin?
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@bayimports said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
@nzzp said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
ehh, we're in the semis unless we drop both games to Pakistan and SL. Then it's a one off day, who executes. I'd still see SA in the semi over Aus or India.
Our net run rate has blown out the back door faster than their dinner from Pune. Essentially taking us from easily making semis to possibly not making the semis. If we do, will only finish fourth at best right now
I think our net run rate is still significantly better than Pakistan's. We can sustain a moderate loss to them and still be in the box seat.
To give a rough idea of what they need to overturn....
In terms of batting we've both faced almost exactly the same number of overs, but we've scored 80 runs more than them.
In terms of bowling, we've conceded 40 runs more - but off an additional 21 overs - so another quite substantial advantage to us.
According to my quick calculation - if Pakistan score 300, we'd have to score about 210 to stay ahead of them (and beat Sri Lanka at least as heavily as they beat England - or lose no worse).
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@Chris-B the point is we should not even be this close in NRR, poor decision at the coin toss last time up put us there (which they still stand by!).
Losses do happen, but we should not get routed by any team
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@bayimports said in CWC: NZ vs SA:
we should not get routed by any team
An outrageous assertion by any Black Caps fan!
I reserve the right for us to be thoroughly and regularly routed!