Old AB teams discussion
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@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevThat's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.
You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title?
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@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevYeah but Rueben Thorne, Caleb Ralph and Sam Broomhall played too
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@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevThat's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.
You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title?
Nah I just know Cullen was cooked in 2003
Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
I love pumping a great Wallabies team and the Boks by 50 at their house
He brought back the BledisloeWon 82% of his tests
Put some fucking respect on his name
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@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.
I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?
At the time, easily. At 50% he'd be better than a 200% Blair.
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@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevYeah but Rueben Thorne, Caleb Ralph and Sam Broomhall played too
Who picked the backs and who picked the forwards between Mitchell and Deans?
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@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
Didn't he bring in the GOAT to Josh Kronfeld's changrin?
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@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevThat's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.
You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title?
Nah I just know Cullen was cooked in 2003
Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
I love pumping a great Wallabies team and the Boks by 50 at their house
He brought back the BledisloeWon 82% of his tests
Put some fucking respect on his name
Yeah, it was great when we pumped them with Henry's Blues blueprint (ba doom tish) not so great when we got outmuscled by the past their greatness Wallabies team because he forgot the Blues plan involved forward dominance.
KHunt is the respectful name I give him and is all he deserves.
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@antipodean said in Old AB teams discussion:
@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.
I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?
At the time, easily. At 50% he'd be better than a 200% Blair.
But we really didn't see much of Blair at AB level did we? I vaguely recall he had a bit of a shocker but was otherwise injured (and may have played with a dodgy shoulder?) I assumed at the time he was there as they did not trust Carlos to kick goals and Blair had a great %.
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@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.
Maybe I'm older or younger but both were deadset legends. I think each has advantages, maybe one on the bench?
Rugby's Greatest: Don Clarke – one of the greatest full-backs of all time
Rugby's Greatest: Don Clarke – the New Zealand full-back makes one of our ten positional spots for the greatest players of all time
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
Didn't he bring in the GOAT to Josh Kronfeld's changrin?
Yep.
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@nostrildamus said in Old AB teams discussion:
But we really didn't see much of Blair at AB level did we? I vaguely recall he had a bit of a shocker
We didn't need to after that display. A nightmare scenario is him and Lauaki on the field at the same time.
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@antipodean said in Old AB teams discussion:
@nostrildamus said in Old AB teams discussion:
But we really didn't see much of Blair at AB level did we? I vaguely recall he had a bit of a shocker
We didn't need to after that display. A nightmare scenario is him and Lauaki on the field at the same time.
Any talk of Ben Blair vs CC is ridiculous, even arguably peak BB vs in decline CC talk is ridiculous
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@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
the only guy of the modern era I would have in a conversation about Fullbacks apart from Cullen is Ben from Accounts and even then it would be a cursory acknowledgement of his gifts as a player before a quick yeah - nah and moving on.
Hi
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@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
the only guy of the modern era I would have in a conversation about Fullbacks apart from Cullen is Ben from Accounts and even then it would be a cursory acknowledgement of his gifts as a player before a quick yeah - nah and moving on.
Hi
Pfft, couldn't even hold off the challenge of Palestine Dagg.
But to be serious, yeah, he's definitely in the conversation, BFA was great and his career ended in a shitty way (at least Mils lost his spot to someone better ... at the time).
Odd, that Dagg is overlooked in these conversations considering he played 60 odd tests. He is overshadowed by the two blokes either side of him.
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@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
the only guy of the modern era I would have in a conversation about Fullbacks apart from Cullen is Ben from Accounts and even then it would be a cursory acknowledgement of his gifts as a player before a quick yeah - nah and moving on.
Hi
Pfft, couldn't even hold off the challenge of Palestine Dagg.
But to be serious, yeah, he's definitely in the conversation, BFA was great and his career ended in a shitty way (at least Mils lost his spot to someone better ... at the time).
Odd, that Dagg is overlooked in these conversations considering he played 60 odd tests. He is overshadowed by the two blokes either side of him.
Cullen stands alone but if Smith deserves a mention then so does Mils
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@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
the only guy of the modern era I would have in a conversation about Fullbacks apart from Cullen is Ben from Accounts and even then it would be a cursory acknowledgement of his gifts as a player before a quick yeah - nah and moving on.
Hi
Pfft, couldn't even hold off the challenge of Palestine Dagg.
But to be serious, yeah, he's definitely in the conversation, BFA was great and his career ended in a shitty way (at least Mils lost his spot to someone better ... at the time).
Odd, that Dagg is overlooked in these conversations considering he played 60 odd tests. He is overshadowed by the two blokes either side of him.
Cullen stands alone but if Smith deserves a mention then so does Mils
Yeah, I said that above - after the Dagg quip.
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@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
@dogmeat said in Old AB teams discussion:
the only guy of the modern era I would have in a conversation about Fullbacks apart from Cullen is Ben from Accounts and even then it would be a cursory acknowledgement of his gifts as a player before a quick yeah - nah and moving on.
Hi
Pfft, couldn't even hold off the challenge of Palestine Dagg.
But to be serious, yeah, he's definitely in the conversation, BFA was great and his career ended in a shitty way (at least Mils lost his spot to someone better ... at the time).
Odd, that Dagg is overlooked in these conversations considering he played 60 odd tests. He is overshadowed by the two blokes either side of him.
Cullen stands alone but if Smith deserves a mention then so does Mils
Mils scored in the corner in 2003.
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@nzzp said in Old AB teams discussion:
Mils scored in the corner in 2003.
A 12 or 14 point swing. NZ goes on to win the SF and maybe the final? If they win the final Mitchell gets reappointed.. that means no Henry, no cartel, Smith would be just a former AB coach, no Hansen AB's etc etc
