NPC 2023
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@Kiwiwomble said in NPC 2023:
Hard for NZR to use the financial stick and not cull Wellington - I mean would they be defending champs and Ranfurly Shield holders if they were financially prudent? So naturally NZR will have to come up with some other B/S criteria to get their own way. But given their governance review in combination with their lack of marketing of the NPC they clearly are going to do what they want to do not matter what.
As I said in another thread, they want NZR to follow a more business approach, rather than a rugby approach, which winds up like Oz with a wingnut like Kim Jong McLennan in charge ... and we've all seen what happens when you do that.
Also, kind of typical of NZR that this news leaks after a good AB performance. Can't have happy fans for too long.
@Steven-Harris said in NPC 2023:
Gotta say though , there might be a revolution if NZ Rugby decided to tread this path
NZR & franchise bases v provinces Civil War.
The NZRFU have truely done a shit job running the NPC as a competition. The teams are performing well, lots of close games and upsets. As for comments the standards have dropped, I think that’s wrong and just looking at the past with rose tinted glasses.
kind of agree...i dont think the standard will have dropped a little...BUT...thats because we dont get AB's playing in the NPC, hell, they miss several super games now days
The squads do seem to be younger, but the current Wellington team would be one of the strongest in recent memory for example.
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NZR haven’t officially released the date or time of the decider on the draw, but Stuff understands it will be a 2.05pm kickoff, either next Saturday or Sunday, the day depending on if Wellington make it through or not.
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I'm not sure I completely agree with the XV chosen. Boshier was the best Taranaki loose forward.
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@Bovidae I don't agree with the XV chosen, particularly 8 and 10. Call me one-eyed, but Devan Flanders was better than Sowakula (who didn't even play all his games at 8 & I lost count of the number of times he knocked the ball on) and - however promising Jacomb is - McClutchie is a much more rounded first five and also had a hand in many tries, this season. He was easily the best 10 in the competition, probably followed by Burke.
I'd probably pick Dom Bird over Tom Parsons, but I'm not sure Bird played mostly 4 or 5. The chosen props are questionable, too. Numia was great in SR, but quiet in NPC.
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@Stargazer said in NPC 2023:
@Bovidae I don't agree with the XV chosen, particularly 8 and 10. Call me one-eyed, but Devan Flanders was better than Sowakula (who didn't even play all his games at 8 & I lost count of the number of times he knocked the ball on) and - however promising Jacomb is - McClutchie is a much more rounded first five and also had a hand in many tries, this season. He was easily the best 10 in the competition, probably followed by Burke.
I'd probably pick Dom Bird over Tom Parsons, but I'm not sure Bird played mostly 4 or 5. The chosen props are questionable, too. Numia was great in SR, but quiet in NPC.
Whether there should have been more HB players is debatable, but totally agree r.e Jacomb and Sowakula. Stinks of recency bias... did Jacomb even play 200 minutes?
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@Stargazer I also thought Caleb Delany was the best and most consistent Wellington Lion this year - would pick him over Bird. He was exceptional at lineout time and keeps getting better the more he plays.
I agree with Flanders aswell. I'm picking both Delany and Flanders to have big Super campaigns in 2024.
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did Jacomb even play 200 minutes?
Not sure if this is accurate:
448mins, 5 starts & 3 from the bench
You can drill into each game to see who subbed on for who. Can't see any obvious errors
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did Jacomb even play 200 minutes?
Not sure if this is accurate:
448mins, 5 starts & 3 from the bench
You can drill into each game to see who subbed on for who. Can't see any obvious errors
Definitely incorrect for those three starts before the final. Was taken off (bizarrely) really early in the second half v Canterbury, and don't believe he played right through in the other either.
Probably over 300 minutes then, but I wouldn't have even thought he hit 400, meaning he barely played a third of available minutes.
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Yeah looks like he was off at 66 mins v Canterbury
NPC site has the opta numbers but you hav to drill down into the players name. But it's a pain to find each match
eg https://www.provincial.rugby/news/bunnings-npc-semifinals-team-lists/
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