Cane and Savea
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<p>It's getting closer - that's for sure.</p>
<p>I think Cane keeps his spot, for now, but Savea should be given a chance to start in a game.</p>
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<p>If Cane doesn't get over any issues carried over from the playoffs ie concussion (I heard from a source that he wasn't quite right vs the Canes) perhaps he'll get his chance sooner rather than later</p> -
Save a will have BB like impact of the bench this year and then it will be hard to ignore him. esp if cane does not take his game to the next level.<br><br>
I think Akira way down the pecking order for now. he will probably come into serious contention post kaino assuming he surpasses the current sixes including fifita -
<p>Personally, I feel Savea is ahead of Cane atm, but that is based purely on form. Savea completely outplayed Cane in their semi, and Cane was obviously getting frustrated with his stupid off the ball stuff.</p>
<p>Cane is the incumbent and deserves a chance to show his wares. </p>
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<p>In saying that, as a squad of 23, it is probably better for Savea to come off the bench, as his style will suit the AB gameplan of stepping up the pace in the final 20.</p> -
<p>Kind of nice to have two classy 7s. Injury prone position, that one.</p>
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I think we will see both in action for the All Blacks in the Rugby Championship. Great to have two excellent 7s to step into McCaw's enormous boots. Cane's great strength is his work rate. He is like the Duracell bunny in defence and supporting the ball carrier. Savea's has wonderful athleticism, a hunger to learn, a coolness under fire and makes things happens. Savea reminds me a lot of Michael Jones.
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<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="603869" data-time="1470599480"><p>I think we will see both in action for the All Blacks inthe Rugby Championship.</p></blockquote>
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I rate Todd a lot and think he would let the all blacks down<br><br><br>
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<p>I suspect if intending to use both in the same game day 23, they will still see Cane as better suited to start and Ardie to finish , </p>
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<p>If they wanted to only use one of them and have a more beefed up bench ,with say Tuipulotu and Squire , then it might become interesting </p> -
<p>Don't think you can lose with either.</p>
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<p>I'll say one thing, Ardie clearly has the better invisibility cloak between the two. Despite having the attention grabbing hairdo, Ardie has close to 3 times more turnovers won than Cane and has conceded close to twice as less penalties than him too.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="603941" data-time="1470611683"><p>Ardie Savea has some great leg drive for a "small" flanker too.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="broughie" data-cid="603654" data-time="1470535554"><p>Someone made the argument that Savea may have problems moving big SA bodies and I tend to agree. He has a big ticker but unfortunately weight does have its advantages. I think Cane carries a little more weight and has served us well. Since the 7 position is really not a fetcher position any more just wondering why we don't run a larger body at 7 and essentially running 2 6's. So for the EOYT how would a Read, Kaino and Iaone trio look. Just thinking out of the box and possibly out of my arse.</p></blockquote>
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Don't mind that sort of thinking if we wanted to try something a little different. And it's not too foreign to what Henry essentially tried when we ran Masoe, a robust 6/8 type at openside. <br><br>
If we were to try it, I reckon a guy like Squire could be an option to pair with Kaino and Read. He's got good quickness and physicality on both sides of the ball. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="603962" data-time="1470615178"><p>Don't mind that sort of thinking if we wanted to try something a little different. And it's not too foreign to what Henry essentially tried when we ran Masoe, a robust 6/8 type at openside. <br>
If we were to try it, I reckon a guy like Squire could be an option to pair with Kaino and Read. He's got good quickness and physicality on both sides of the ball.</p></blockquote>
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I was actually thinking Elliot Dixon makes more sense, I believe he has played all back 3 positions and I think he can flip the switch from tight to loose pretty easily. -
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<p>I think we will see both in action for the All Blacks in the Rugby Championship. Great to have two excellent 7s to step into McCaw's enormous boots. Cane's great strength is his work rate. He is like the Duracell bunny in defence and supporting the ball carrier. Savea's has wonderful athleticism, a hunger to learn, a coolness under fire and makes things happens. Savea reminds me a lot of Michael Jones.</p>
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<p>Me too, especially his acceleration over the first ten yards.</p>
