RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@No-Quarter They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
They had made good progress down the pitch. The Irish breakdown work was exemplary for the most part in that last stanza and they were getting nearer to the line.
It took incredible discipline for NZ not to cough up the penalty (which would have been kicked to the corner) and patience to wait for opportunities to effect the winning breakdown turnover/penalty.
Ireland didn't think NZ had that patience and discipline. I'll bet a fair number of NZ fans didn't either
That's a fair assessment. Probably more a symptom of their attack lacking any real 'plan B' so once we figured out how to hold them out they ran out of ideas.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
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@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
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@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
Yep, I'm increasingly thinking this is what will get the AB's through the next two weeks. Always hoping!
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@Donsteppa said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Kirwan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
The team is doing a good job of creating a bunker mentality. The chip is working for them.
Yep, I'm increasingly thinking this is what will get the AB's through the next two weeks. Always hoping!
If the ABs are anything like me, the thought of Boks on trophy a fourth time is motivation enough.
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Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.
Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.
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@Donsteppa yeah, i think a league you have to manage fatigue....but we're at the big show...leave it all out there, best team every week, let the strapping tap take us through the final
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti WilliamsRupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.
On Stan if you don’t click on the first option of watch live , scroll down you get the option of nz commentary.
I only recently discovered it myself.
I'd rather those two than Nisbett, especially when pronunciation is involved.
I watched the full game with the RWC commentary and the highlights with the NZ commentary. After 10 minutes of the NZ I was glad I watched the full with the RWC commentary.
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@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
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@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Aside from the pronunciation of Savea I really like the World feed main commentator (Rupert Cox?). He does a great job.
Is he a Kiwi? I did hear him say on-air that he went to Auckland GS, but I won't hold that against him.
The English sideline person in the England-Fiji game really struggled to say those Fijian names.
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@MajorRage said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Watch it again and enjoy!!
No doubt the pass at 79:57 was a mile forwards too.
There were also 4 clear moments Barnes should have called it earlier. Hell, Ardie was basically inducted into the Rugby Hall of Fame he had latched onto the ball so long. All done now but damn.
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@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.
You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.
No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.
I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.
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@Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
For people wondering about Ioane and shit talk, he was clearly neck rolled at 5:00. He came up with something to say, and I imagine he would have continued.
Forgot about that. Hear it clear in the coms. "Neck roll! Neck roll!"
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
I actually think it somewhat was. I've mentioned it numerous times. The ABs sit back, wait for the Irish to do their move then hit. Mostly worked this time.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
I actually think it somewhat was. I've mentioned it numerous times. The ABs sit back, wait for the Irish to do their move then hit. Mostly worked this time.
'It wasn't a derogatory comment at all' - Defence coach clarifies Ian Foster remarks
New Zealand defence coach Scott McLeod has defended Ian Foster's comments about Ireland's attack that he says were taken out of context.
"McLeod explained how the All Blacks in fact needed to go back to the drawing board on defence after realising that their defensive systems were falling behind that of European sides.
“After the series loss at home last year [against Ireland] which really hurt, we had to have a really good look at some fundamentals in the defensive game for the All Blacks and a big part of that was in Super Rugby in New Zealand they tend to defend the man. So, they line up on a man and they defend the man. Whereas that doesn’t work against Ireland, it doesn’t work against Italy, it doesn’t work against France and we knew we had those teams more than likely in this World Cup.
“So, we had to develop our ability to be able to defend the ball. Wherever the ball is we had to put people in front of that."
defensive systems were falling behind that of European sides. - love this comment especially
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