All Blacks 2023
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This will be official later
Points
1 (↑3) South Africa 92.48 (+2.78)
2 (↑4) New Zealand 90.91 (+3.22)
3 (↓1) Ireland 90.57 (-3.22)
4 (↓2) France 87.81 (-2.78)
5 (↑6) England 84.03 (+0.78)
6 (↓5) Scotland 83.43
7 (↑8) Argentina 83.07 (+2.52)
8 (↓7) Wales 80.64 (-2.52)
9 Australia 77.48
10 Fiji 76.38 (-0.78) -
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
This will be official later
Points
1 (↑3) South Africa 92.48 (+2.78)
2 (↑4) New Zealand 90.91 (+3.22)
3 (↓1) Ireland 90.57 (-3.22)
4 (↓2) France 87.81 (-2.78)
5 (↑6) England 84.03 (+0.78)
6 (↓5) Scotland 83.43
7 (↑8) Argentina 83.07 (+2.52)
8 (↓7) Wales 80.64 (-2.52)
9 Australia 77.48
10 Fiji 76.38 (-0.78)That seems an absurd swing for 2 single tight results
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@voodoo RWC is double points I think?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@voodoo RWC is double points I think?
oh right, didn't know that. 3.22 points each for a 6.44 point swing seems just nuts for a 4 point win on neutral ground!
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McLeod says that the defensive system has changed for the opposition they expected to play against.
How Scott McLeod Transformed the All Blacks' Defence
Losing their home Test series to Ireland forced the All Blacks to redesign their defensive approach, and that was significant in their 28-24 Rugby World Cup quarterfinal win in Paris on Sunday (NZT).
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that's an interesting interview
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the ex-player and coach in me really wants to know what "defending the ball" is and how it works. Ball watching is a cardinal sin, so what exactly is the focus?
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"We had to develop our ability to defend the ball.
"Wherever the ball is, we had to put people in front of that.
Though we appeared to have sod all people in front of the ball when the Irish spread it to the fringes on the weekend so stuffed if I know what that means as well
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
the ex-player and coach in me really wants to know what "defending the ball" is and how it works. Ball watching is a cardinal sin, so what exactly is the focus?
There has been some talk of it for a while but not much with any specificity.
The Crusaders apparently use a version adapted from O'Gara
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/112674451/how-ronan-ogaras-lightbulb-moment-helped-transform-the-crusadersA bit more here about how it is used at La Rochelle
Ronan O’Gara has made La Rochelle ask ‘why not us?’
Defence is the French team’s strongest weapon, and the focus is to defend the ball and not the space
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@gt12 even with our defensive issues of the past few years, I think our line defence, particularly our goal line defence has still been excellent, which is where they are probably able to be more focused on the ball than the space?
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Nice to see it confirmed, still stuck in a defensive time warp
That aged well!
The All Blacks will operate their Venus flytrap, dragging the opposition attack wide with the honey of easy pickings, then the jaws will clap shut at the least sign of weakness at the ruck, and the counter-attack begins. It is a formula devised by ‘The Professor’, Wayne Smith, and it has proved its value and stood the test of time.
Why All Blacks' near-century won't have Ireland or South Africa sweating
The All Blacks' 79-point win over Italy confirmed what New Zealand's main rivals already know.
But the times have moved on, and the ghosts of the three wise men, Sir Graham Henry, Sir Steve Hansen and ‘Smithy’, stand in the dim distance. The spectres of a decade of Kiwi dominance may just be ripe for exorcism.
Yes sure what has Sir Wayne Smith won recently?!!
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Nice to see it confirmed, still stuck in a defensive time warp
That aged well!
The All Blacks will operate their Venus flytrap, dragging the opposition attack wide with the honey of easy pickings, then the jaws will clap shut at the least sign of weakness at the ruck, and the counter-attack begins. It is a formula devised by ‘The Professor’, Wayne Smith, and it has proved its value and stood the test of time.
Why All Blacks' near-century won't have Ireland or South Africa sweating
The All Blacks' 79-point win over Italy confirmed what New Zealand's main rivals already know.
But the times have moved on, and the ghosts of the three wise men, Sir Graham Henry, Sir Steve Hansen and ‘Smithy’, stand in the dim distance. The spectres of a decade of Kiwi dominance may just be ripe for exorcism.
Yes sure what has Sir Wayne Smith won recently?!!
Aged fine, the ABs themselves said they changed their defence to play Ireland. Exactly as suggested in the article - McLeod basically agreed with Nick Bishop
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
the ex-player and coach in me really wants to know what "defending the ball" is and how it works. Ball watching is a cardinal sin, so what exactly is the focus?
You and me both. I consistently drill into players that if you're watching the ball you're unaware of the man running an angle into space or a soft shoulder you can't see.
It would be great if someone could actually find a video of these defensive coaches explaining it.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Nice to see it confirmed, still stuck in a defensive time warp
That aged well!
The All Blacks will operate their Venus flytrap, dragging the opposition attack wide with the honey of easy pickings, then the jaws will clap shut at the least sign of weakness at the ruck, and the counter-attack begins. It is a formula devised by ‘The Professor’, Wayne Smith, and it has proved its value and stood the test of time.
Why All Blacks' near-century won't have Ireland or South Africa sweating
The All Blacks' 79-point win over Italy confirmed what New Zealand's main rivals already know.
But the times have moved on, and the ghosts of the three wise men, Sir Graham Henry, Sir Steve Hansen and ‘Smithy’, stand in the dim distance. The spectres of a decade of Kiwi dominance may just be ripe for exorcism.
Yes sure what has Sir Wayne Smith won recently?!!
Aged fine, the ABs themselves said they changed their defence to play Ireland. Exactly as suggested in the article - McLeod basically agreed with Nick Bishop
But the writer said "will operate" and that the times had moved on from Smithy. Not so sure.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
the ex-player and coach in me really wants to know what "defending the ball" is and how it works. Ball watching is a cardinal sin, so what exactly is the focus?
You and me both. I consistently drill into players that if you're watching the ball you're unaware of the man running an angle into space or a soft shoulder you can't see.
One phrase I remember from reading Carwyn James book on coaching (arguably the most influential coach of all time) was: "It's not where the ball is, it's were the ball will or could be"
