Aussie Pro Rugby
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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby:
@nostrildamus that's it then. Foster to ARU, along with the bledisloe in 2024.
are we that
cruelgenerous? Edit: I mean up to now we've only been sending them coaches who could win things..I don't know why they wouldn't want a coach fresh off the back of winning a world cup.
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@Daffy-Jaffy oof. I'm picking he'll love that.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby:
In Super Rugby, you play a maximum of fifteen matches a year. There's very little continuity.
I so agree with this. And I am pretty anti how much 'rest' our guys get, although in some cases the NH is too far the other way. I will, once again, call for 5 Oz, 2 PI, 8ish NZ SR teams in SR. A full proper season, with the NPC gone, which will level the playing field, but still keep a lot of pro players in SH. With all teams at a similar level the comp will be better, and will grow together - see URC improvements. At that level we could safely reintroduce Arg and Japan.
Ireland do just fine with one pro layer, and so can we all in the SH. Ideally we would have SA as well, all 6 if they want, but that ship has sailed
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It echos what some of us were saying in the structure thread. Too little elite rugby for our players.
And too many easy games in that elite rugby.Our structure is totally cooked
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And the NZRU has tied themselves to this sinking ship
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby:
In Super Rugby, you play a maximum of fifteen matches a year. There's very little continuity.
I so agree with this. And I am pretty anti how much 'rest' our guys get, although in some cases the NH is too far the other way. I will, once again, call for 5 Oz, 2 PI, 8ish NZ SR teams in SR. A full proper season, with the NPC gone, which will level the playing field, but still keep a lot of pro players in SH. With all teams at a similar level the comp will be better, and will grow together - see URC improvements. At that level we could safely reintroduce Arg and Japan.
Ireland do just fine with one pro layer, and so can we all in the SH. Ideally we would have SA as well, all 6 if they want, but that ship has sailed
Sounds like a good plan. Does that mean Hawkes The Current Bay now gets to keep the Shield/s if they cut the NPC?
We are even willing to give half to ARU to put something in the cabinet.
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@Magpie_in_aus said in Aussie Rugby:
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby:
In Super Rugby, you play a maximum of fifteen matches a year. There's very little continuity.
I so agree with this. And I am pretty anti how much 'rest' our guys get, although in some cases the NH is too far the other way. I will, once again, call for 5 Oz, 2 PI, 8ish NZ SR teams in SR. A full proper season, with the NPC gone, which will level the playing field, but still keep a lot of pro players in SH. With all teams at a similar level the comp will be better, and will grow together - see URC improvements. At that level we could safely reintroduce Arg and Japan.
Ireland do just fine with one pro layer, and so can we all in the SH. Ideally we would have SA as well, all 6 if they want, but that ship has sailed
Sounds like a good plan. Does that mean Hawkes The Current Bay now gets to keep the Shield/s if they cut the NPC?
We are even willing to give half to ARU to put something in the cabinet.
Nah, shield can be competed for at non pro level below
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
I actually think that's what happened. He had a call with them, but it was a general chat about his future. Could he recommend coaching options? Could he coach the team? Is there anything else he could do?
So Eddie can truthfully say it wasn't a 'job interview' but it was a detailed chat about future employment.
No discussions at all
Asked whether he was talking to Japanese officials about a return to the role he last held in 2015, Jones again denied any reports linking him to the role.
“I’ve had no discussion with them, mate,” he said.
None at all?
“That’s correct,” he said.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
... according to Eddie.
The same Eddie who had 'no discussions' with England six days before he was announced as their coach, walking out on the Stormers.
Yeah, I mean that previously it could be argued that he was omitting things, now he's either not talked to Japan or is a lying fluffybunny
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I'm at a high school sevens comp and I'm astounded to see a guy in a QRU shirt here.
Maybe there is a DO up here -
Wow these stories are staggering. Here in the south west of France we pay 50 euros per kid. Season is September till June. That covers insurance, kit, though we have team jerseys. Buses to any away matches and a snack for all the kids after training or match on Saturday. With what's left at the end of the year we have a day out for all the kids.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
I'm at a high school sevens comp and I'm astounded to see a guy in a QRU shirt here.
Maybe there is a DO up hereJunket
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@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
I actually think that's what happened. He had a call with them, but it was a general chat about his future. Could he recommend coaching options? Could he coach the team? Is there anything else he could do?
So Eddie can truthfully say it wasn't a 'job interview' but it was a detailed chat about future employment.
No discussions at all
Asked whether he was talking to Japanese officials about a return to the role he last held in 2015, Jones again denied any reports linking him to the role.
“I’ve had no discussion with them, mate,” he said.
None at all?
“That’s correct,” he said.
Perhaps Crowley is the target
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already accustomed to losing...