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@mariner4life said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
@voodoo said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
Shit, feels like the world is in a bloody precarious state right now
i was reading about how it's tense in the Balkans again today.
WTF is going on?
The marvellous multicultural benefits of rampant third world migration?
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@canefan said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
@MajorRage said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
This unfortunately has a bit of an Afghanistan feel to it - it's completely unsolvable.
It's amazing how many people (Corbynite Lefties) seem to be celebrating the killing of innocent Israeli citizens.
This stuff should never be celebrated. Just a complete waste of life.
What happens when you promise one piece of land to two groups of people who don't want to share it
Correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't one group already there and owned the land, and had maybe for 1000's of years (its not like NZ say) and the other group moved in and forcefully took it off them.
And didn't this attack happen on Palestinian occupied land. That little bit they still have that internationally is recognized as theirs.
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@antipodean said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
The marvellous multicultural benefits of rampant third world migration?
Can speak for Oz, but in the UK the biggest supporters of Hamas (to the point of refusing to condemn the attacks) have been some senior Labour & ex-Labour politicians and Green MSPs.
The police here have been surprisingly swift to point out that anyone publicly praising the attacks is breaking the law and will be arrested.
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@Winger said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
And didn't this attack happen on Palestinian occupied land. That little bit they still have that internationally is recognized as theirs.
No. But apart from the fact that you are wrong, I don't see the point you are making.
Unless you're obliquely arguing it's OK for Hamas to murder 260 unarmed teenagers, rape others next to their friend's dead bodies and parade those naked bodies on backs of trucks because it's somehow their land.
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@Tim Yep. This is pretty much all about Shia Iran trying to destroy the normalisation of relations between Israel and its Sunni neighbours. Something the Biden White House has been keen to disrupt as well given it was something Trump (Kushner) accomplished. And we can't have that!
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https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/iran-spy-ring-robert-malley-lee-smith
"The Biden administration’s now-suspended Iran envoy Robert Malley helped to fund, support, and direct an Iranian intelligence operation designed to influence the United States and allied governments, according to a trove of purloined Iranian government emails. The emails, which were reported on by veteran Wall Street Journal correspondent Jay Solomon, writing in Semafor, and by Iran International, the London-based émigré opposition outlet which is the most widely read independent news source inside Iran, were published last week after being extensively verified over a period of several months by the two outlets. They showed that Malley had helped to infiltrate an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai into some of the most sensitive positions in the U.S. government—first at the State Department and now the Pentagon, where she has been serving as chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier."
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I normally cringe when people are killed and internally express horror/outrage at their deaths - and I try to see both sides of the Palestinian/ Israeli issue and know that no side is perfect
But when I see the images and videos of Hamas' actions, I find it increasingly hard to stop myself thinking like I did about ISIS - kill as many of the fuckers as possible
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Believe it or not, this is from an NHS Neurologist....hopefully she won't be for much longer and her employment will disappear as fast as her twitter account.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
@antipodean said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
The marvellous multicultural benefits of rampant third world migration?
Can speak for Oz, but in the UK the biggest supporters of Hamas (to the point of refusing to condemn the attacks) have been some senior Labour & ex-Labour politicians and Green MSPs.
The police here have been surprisingly swift to point out that anyone publicly praising the attacks is breaking the law and will be arrested.
Meanwhile 'NSW police warned Sydney’s Jewish community to avoid the Opera House on Monday as its sails were lit with the Israeli flag to commemorate those killed and kidnapped by Hamas, after green-lighting a pro-Palestinian march to the site.'
They actually arrested a bloke with a rolled up Israel flag and confiscated it.
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Way different here. Is Hamas a terrorist organisation in Oz?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/09/uni-societies-social-media-supporting-hamas-israel/
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
Believe it or not, this is from an NHS Neurologist....hopefully she won't be for much longer and her employment will disappear as fast as her twitter account.
yeah thats just abysmal. For all of Israel's complicity in what has happened there. Innocent civilians (from either side) don't deserve to be slaughtered for just being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
@antipodean said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
The marvellous multicultural benefits of rampant third world migration?
Can speak for Oz, but in the UK the biggest supporters of Hamas (to the point of refusing to condemn the attacks) have been some senior Labour & ex-Labour politicians and Green MSPs.
And possibly Sonny Bill Williams
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
and I try to see both sides of the Palestinian/ Israeli issue
Thats good to read. Most don't seem to.
And just to be clear for the likes of yourself I'm in no way justifying or supporting this action. Quite the opposite. As these deaths will be revenged 10 times or more. Just more pointless killing because of hate and fear.
And it's not all Palestinians. Most suffer terrible conditions (from what I've read) imposed by Israel and cope with life as best they can. Without lashing back much.
This action will just mean more deaths and killing of mostly innocent people. Not just now but in future years
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@voodoo said in Israel, Iran, Syria, and the rest of the ... Middle East:
Qatar generally gets a pretty free ride internationally when you consider all the support it provides to Hamas and others
Well, you have to take into account that they put on a great soccer World Cup!!!
And as Westerners, we will overlook all evil for the sake of a good game!!