Rugby World Cup general discussion
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@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Yeah that’s a bit to quick witted, he probably thought of that one in the hotel later
I'm aware I have the luxury of hindsight
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@Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?
Because it is exactly the sort of thing Rassie might consider??
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@Machpants Yeah, you have a point, still a poor response. A bit of a gotcha moment.
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@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Fuck me. What is it with Saffer coaches. Why are they all such mongtards?
It ws put to him that Ire and Sco would do that on purpose, and he is right, that would be match fixing. It was a stupid question from NH press
true, he could have answered, "Well, I don't know how they would match fix accidentally!"
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The deliberate match fixing is nonsense,
But I guess what is possible, Scotland throw the kitchen sink knowing if they lose they are going home ,
And Ireland go in knowing they have done enough to qualify win, lose or draw
And from those mindsets , stranger things have happened than an upset of these proportions.
Still unlikely though imo
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@kiwiinmelb said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
The deliberate match fixing is nonsense,
But I guess what is possible, Scotland throw the kitchen sink knowing if they lose they are going home ,
And Ireland go in knowing they have done enough to qualify win, lose or draw
And from those mindsets , stranger things have happened than an upset of these proportions.
Still unlikely though imo
5th ranked team vs 1st.
It’s not out of the question for them to knock them over.
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The Boks and NZ could I imagine not be focussed on a game and already be thinking a game ahead and get a nasty shock, but this Ireland team? They seem too disciplined. Prove me wrong, Scotland!
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Based on form you'd have to go with Ireland, they know they need at least a point and they've demonstrated the capacity to maintain standards. Only this year securing the 6N grand slam.
Like everyone else, the issue is can they do it for five games in a row? Even in the 6N they had Italy half way through and only won by two tries.
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So the weekends games that impact finals
France v Italy. France by a fair bit
Ireland v Scotland. Ireland by a fair bit
Argentina v Japan. ArgentinaI just can't see an upset anywhere.
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We would need something pretty sensational to happen this week to elevate this Group stage above "meh"
With the top 4 sides in two pool, AND the same side of the draw, we were treated to big games with nothing significant riding on the result.
On the other side we've had the Wallabies absolutely shit the bed, otherwise it's been very ho hum.Couple of pretty fun games of footy, but in the end a set of quarter finals that end up being very predictable.
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@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
We would need something pretty sensational to happen this week to elevate this Group stage above "meh"
With the top 4 sides in two pool, AND the same side of the draw, we were treated to big games with nothing significant riding on the result.
On the other side we've had the Wallabies absolutely shit the bed, otherwise it's been very ho hum.Couple of pretty fun games of footy, but in the end a set of quarter finals that end up being very predictable.
The knockout stages of the RWC are very much like an historical account of the sinking of the Titanic, more often than not written from the perspective of the usual protagonists but every once in a while written from the perspective of a minor character who just happened to be on board
The narrative that one side of the draw is severely compromised whilst the other half is sipping pastis on the Côte d’Azur is getting tiresome
If Scotland were that good they would have made the QF in 2019 and come away with at least 1 try against SA this time
2019 RWC QF
England v Australia
NZ v Ireland
Wales v France
Japan v SAThis time it should be
England v Fiji
NZ v Ireland
Wales v Argentina / Japan
France v SASo 6 of the 2019 Quarter Finalists, if not 7 (if Japan beat Argentina)
The Pool stages have been fascinating IMHO
Permutations galore
And it isn’t finished yetBest RWC to this stage for me
And we could end up with same 4 Semi Finalists as 2019 or a big shake up and four different ones, including first SF for Fiji and Japan
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Hard disagree on nearly every point
Stage also not helped by games only on weekends and fucking byes dragging everything out.
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@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
So the weekends games that impact finals
France v Italy. France by a fair bit
Ireland v Scotland. Ireland by a fair bit
Argentina v Japan. ArgentinaI just can't see an upset anywhere.
Yeah. Us v Uruguay ...
Whilst it should be a foregone conclusion, BP win is required so we can relax...
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@MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
We would need something pretty sensational to happen this week to elevate this Group stage above "meh"
With the top 4 sides in two pool, AND the same side of the draw, we were treated to big games with nothing significant riding on the result.
On the other side we've had the Wallabies absolutely shit the bed, otherwise it's been very ho hum.Couple of pretty fun games of footy, but in the end a set of quarter finals that end up being very predictable.
The knockout stages of the RWC are very much like an historical account of the sinking of the Titanic, more often than not written from the perspective of the usual protagonists but every once in a while written from the perspective of a minor character who just happened to be on board
The narrative that one side of the draw is severely compromised whilst the other half is sipping pastis on the Côte d’Azur is getting tiresome
If Scotland were that good they would have made the QF in 2019 and come away with at least 1 try against SA this time
2019 RWC QF
England v Australia
NZ v Ireland
Wales v France
Japan v SAThis time it should be
England v Fiji
NZ v Ireland
Wales v Argentina / Japan
France v SASo 6 of the 2019 Quarter Finalists, if not 7 (if Japan beat Argentina)
The Pool stages have been fascinating IMHO
Permutations galore
And it isn’t finished yetBest RWC to this stage for me
And we could end up with same 4 Semi Finalists as 2019 or a big shake up and four different ones, including first SF for Fiji and Japan
No it’s not.
1st, 2nd and 5th in the same pool is ridiculous.
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@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Hard disagree on nearly every point
Stage also not helped by games only on weekends and fucking byes dragging everything out.
The All Blacks are playing on Friday
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@MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Hard disagree on nearly every point
Stage also not helped by games only on weekends and fucking byes dragging everything out.
The All Blacks are playing on Friday
Thursday local time
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@booboo said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Hard disagree on nearly every point
Stage also not helped by games only on weekends and fucking byes dragging everything out.
The All Blacks are playing on Friday
Thursday local time
Yes
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@MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
We would need something pretty sensational to happen this week to elevate this Group stage above "meh"
With the top 4 sides in two pool, AND the same side of the draw, we were treated to big games with nothing significant riding on the result.
On the other side we've had the Wallabies absolutely shit the bed, otherwise it's been very ho hum.Couple of pretty fun games of footy, but in the end a set of quarter finals that end up being very predictable.
The knockout stages of the RWC are very much like an historical account of the sinking of the Titanic, more often than not written from the perspective of the usual protagonists but every once in a while written from the perspective of a minor character who just happened to be on board
The narrative that one side of the draw is severely compromised whilst the other half is sipping pastis on the Côte d’Azur is getting tiresome
If Scotland were that good they would have made the QF in 2019 and come away with at least 1 try against SA this time
2019 RWC QF
England v Australia
NZ v Ireland
Wales v France
Japan v SAThis time it should be
England v Fiji
NZ v Ireland
Wales v Argentina / Japan
France v SASo 6 of the 2019 Quarter Finalists, if not 7 (if Japan beat Argentina)
The Pool stages have been fascinating IMHO
Permutations galore
And it isn’t finished yetBest RWC to this stage for me
And we could end up with same 4 Semi Finalists as 2019 or a big shake up and four different ones, including first SF for Fiji and Japan
No it’s not.
1st, 2nd and 5th in the same pool is ridiculous.
When Scotland get pumped by Ireland the realisation will finally sink in that places 5-10 are very interchangeable on any given day
And if Ireland and SA meet again in the Final, then having 1 & 2 in the same Pool is a good way to see them play each other for the Cup
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@MN5 said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
We would need something pretty sensational to happen this week to elevate this Group stage above "meh"
With the top 4 sides in two pool, AND the same side of the draw, we were treated to big games with nothing significant riding on the result.
On the other side we've had the Wallabies absolutely shit the bed, otherwise it's been very ho hum.Couple of pretty fun games of footy, but in the end a set of quarter finals that end up being very predictable.
The knockout stages of the RWC are very much like an historical account of the sinking of the Titanic, more often than not written from the perspective of the usual protagonists but every once in a while written from the perspective of a minor character who just happened to be on board
The narrative that one side of the draw is severely compromised whilst the other half is sipping pastis on the Côte d’Azur is getting tiresome
If Scotland were that good they would have made the QF in 2019 and come away with at least 1 try against SA this time
2019 RWC QF
England v Australia
NZ v Ireland
Wales v France
Japan v SAThis time it should be
England v Fiji
NZ v Ireland
Wales v Argentina / Japan
France v SASo 6 of the 2019 Quarter Finalists, if not 7 (if Japan beat Argentina)
The Pool stages have been fascinating IMHO
Permutations galore
And it isn’t finished yetBest RWC to this stage for me
And we could end up with same 4 Semi Finalists as 2019 or a big shake up and four different ones, including first SF for Fiji and Japan
No it’s not.
1st, 2nd and 5th in the same pool is ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous but it is unfortunate. The organisers have to balance trying to have some form of up to date seedings in the groups with the logistics of where the different teams will play, where they will be based and the planning of who each team will be playing. Doing it too far in advance and you have the potential for the current situation, do it too near the event and you have the potential for chaos. FWIW I don't think they have got it quite right but also feel that whatever they do there will be some issues.
