Steve Tew: New Zealand ready for a gay All Black
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<p>actually, i have story about that, perhaps to the other thread?</p>
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what does it mean if you prefer fake boobs to real ones ?
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<p>that you probably shouldn't let your wife read this thread!</p>
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<p>unless he bought his wife a new rack, in which case</p>
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its cheap in thailand
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<p>what does it mean if you prefer fake boobs to real ones ?</p>
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<p>Are you saying you do, or in general? I actually can't fathom why anyone would prefer fakes.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="602699" data-time="1470188046"><p>Are you saying you do, or in general? I actually can't fathom why anyone would prefer fakes.</p></blockquote><br>Some girls have great real ones , law of averages = not so many ,<br><br>Fake ones tend to look great most of the time , these days with good surgeons its hard to tell the difference , they just look like a great rack providing they dont go ridiculously big
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<p>There is no way that apology would have been accepted in Australia.</p>
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<p>LGBT??? Is that all ya got????</p>
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<p>In Sydney apologies must be addressed to the LGBTIQA Rainbow community.</p>
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<p>We don't want anyone missing out!!</p>
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<p>And on a personal note (given my advancing years) I recently learnt I am part of this Community.</p>
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<p>A is for Asexual and as I don't really care as much as I used to...........</p>
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<p>So let me state for the record that I am part of the LGBTIQA community!</p>
<p>I am offended! (by most things)</p>
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<p>People in the 21st century shouldn't receive abuse for their race, gender, religion or sexuality.<br><br>
Disappointing and regrettable behaviour by Allardyce. He let himself, his team mates and his franchise down. If he was at a European Club based in a big city like London, Paris or Edinburgh he might have had his contract torn up. He's done the right thing apologising and his apology sounds sincere. I don't think his actions reflect the wider culture of the Chiefs or NZ Rugby.<br><br>
No excuses, but he's not the first young man to make a silly mistake after a few beers.....</p>
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<p>You do realise that Allardice didn't abuse anyone? It was a joke between friends. I don't know about you but just about every New Zealand male has jokes among their friends which would be unacceptable in other contexts. People call each other fluffybunnies all the time. I don't like that word and, if people use it to me, it won't be taken as friendly. If two other people want to use it as a term of endearment to each other then who cares? Use of faggot, fluffybunny and racial slurs are all acceptable if the person called those names is okay with it.</p> -
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<p>You do realise that Allardice didn't abuse anyone? It was a joke between friends. I don't know about you but just about every New Zealand male has jokes among their friends which would be unacceptable in other contexts. People call each other fluffybunnys all the time. I don't like that word and, if people use it to me, it won't be taken as friendly. If two other people want to use it as a term of endearment to each other then who cares? Use of faggot, fluffybunny and racial slurs are all acceptable if the person called those names is okay with it.</p>
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<p>If it had happened in a strictly private context, I would agree with you, but I think the main issue here is that Allardice said what he said in public and was clearly heard by people not belonging to the group. These people had every right to feel offended, even if he didn't mean to abuse them. </p> -
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If it had happened in a strictly private context, I would agree with you, but I think the main issue here is that Allardice said what he said in public and was clearly heard by people not belonging to the group. These people had every right to feel offended.</p></blockquote>
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So if you ever jokingly called a friend of yours gay or any other name (such as spastic, retard, idiot, baldy, bogan) it has been strickly in private in case you offend somebody? -
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<p>So if you ever jokingly called a friend of yours gay or any other name (such as spastic, retard, idiot, baldy, bogan) it has been strickly in private in case you offend somebody?</p>
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<p>I agree.</p>
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<p>Have you seen some of the words females call female friends? Usually in public places. </p>
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<p>So if you ever jokingly called a friend of yours gay or any other name (such as spastic, retard, idiot, baldy, bogan) it has been strickly in private in case you offend somebody?</p>
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<p>I do not call my friends names that are generally considered discriminatory, and if I use non-discriminatory names that may be considered offensive by people outside my group, then usually nobody will care what I say because I'm not a professional rugby player/sportsman, who is considered a role model by some parts of society. I think higher standards apply (in a public context) to public figures who people look up to.</p> -
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<p>You do realise that Allardice didn't abuse anyone? It was a joke between friends. I don't know about you but just about every New Zealand male has jokes among their friends which would be unacceptable in other contexts. People call each other fluffybunnies all the time. I don't like that word and, if people use it to me, it won't be taken as friendly. If two other people want to use it as a term of endearment to each other then who cares? Use of faggot, fluffybunny and racial slurs are all acceptable if the person called those names is okay with it.</p>
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<p>good fluffybunny</p>
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<p>If it had happened in a strictly private context, I would agree with you, but I think the main issue here is that Allardice said what he said in public and was clearly heard by people not belonging to the group. These people had every right to feel offended, even if he didn't mean to abuse them. </p>
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<p>precious fluffybunny</p>
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<p>Maybe I am a dinosaur, but I am more concerned about the guy who complained. He said he wasn't offended but he was worried somebody else could be offended. I have a dislike for people who get outraged or offended on behalf of others.</p>
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<p>He wasn't offended but he thought someone else might be offended?</p>
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If he was offended or offended on behalf of others (as ridiculous as that seems), perhaps a better course of action would have been to approach the player directly or contact the Chiefs organisation rather than slander him as some kind of criminal on social media and in the media.
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<p style="margin-left:40px;">I am pretty sure the guy is gay and he felt the comments were directed at him.</p>
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<p>If he was offended or offended on behalf of others (as ridiculous as that seems), perhaps a better course of action would have been to approach the player directly or contact the Chiefs organisation rather than slander him as some kind of criminal on social media and in the media.</p>
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<p>Not sure if you've been following the similar drama involving Kevin Roberts but the perennially outraged might have ended his career <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/82669968/saatchi--saatchis-kevin-roberts-in-hot-water-over-gender-diversity-comments'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/82669968/saatchi--saatchis-kevin-roberts-in-hot-water-over-gender-diversity-comments</a></p>