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    #4061

    As Matt Burke so succinctly points out in teh above podcast, the money that the two australasian rugby unions have to play with is fucking nothing

    The AFL broadcast deal is $650m per year
    The NRL broadcast deal is $400m per year (and the next iteration will be way higher)

    The ARU get $33m per year
    The NZRU gets $80m per year
    combined that's a little over a quarter of what the NRL get

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    As Matt Burke so succinctly points out in teh above podcast, the money that the two australasian rugby unions have to play with is fucking nothing

    The AFL broadcast deal is $650m per year
    The NRL broadcast deal is $400m per year (and the next iteration will be way higher)

    The ARU get $33m per year
    The NZRU gets $80m per year
    combined that's a little over a quarter of what the NRL get

    That ARU figure is shocking. I knew it would be low, but that really brings it home.

    And you'd have to think that, unless things improve a lot between now and whenever it's up for review, the next one will be worth even less.

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    @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Dan54 said in Aussie Rugby:

    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

    Understand that too, but does 5 teams with a number of overseas players widen the base?

    It exposes more players to professionalism.

    Both NZ and Oz need to stop looking at SR through the misty eyes of youthful recollection and acknowledge that it isn't the Super 12. It's a different competition now.

    Also wonder if having Rebels has caused an upsurge in rugby in Melbourne

    short answer is no, or at least not as far as ive seen, COVID also fucked us around quite a lot, fewer expats filling the ranks, two seasons cut short...just the fact i dont think too many people act actually name the premier Rugby comp/trophy

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    @GibbonRib said in Aussie Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    As Matt Burke so succinctly points out in teh above podcast, the money that the two australasian rugby unions have to play with is fucking nothing

    The AFL broadcast deal is $650m per year
    The NRL broadcast deal is $400m per year (and the next iteration will be way higher)

    The ARU get $33m per year
    The NZRU gets $80m per year
    combined that's a little over a quarter of what the NRL get

    That ARU figure is shocking. I knew it would be low, but that really brings it home.

    And you'd have to think that, unless things improve a lot between now and whenever it's up for review, the next one will be worth even less.

    I'm surprised anyone wants to pay anything. What do they have to offer? Some local cripple fights with the odd rodgering by a NZ team resting their stars. And all this happening while the ref repeatedly stops the game for 10 min to check an incident that occurred 50 phases prior. So in sum, you've got an unentertaining whistle fest between substandard sides and sometimes a disinterested NZ side. They should have to pay to have it broadcast.

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    They don't learn, do they. More big money on League star

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/09/28/besieged-wallabies-throw-lucrative-deal-at-crichton-in-bid-to-lure-roosters-star-back-to-rugby-with-a-super-twist/

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    @Machpants
    alt text

    No one but Angus' agent would think this was a good idea.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    "back to Rugby"

    FFS these idiots are delusional. Most of these guys played both, got picked up by league - who paid for their private school education where they dominated schoolboy Rugby and probably played a bit of league on the side.

    They were NEVER union.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #4068

    History is littered with league forwards being a success in rugby.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    History is littered with league forwards being a success in rugby.

    true..think they said he was primarily a centre when he was young? Im curious to where he would play..

    For someone with mental health issues, surely Aussie rugby should not be your next move lol

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    @bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:

    For someone with mental health issues, surely Aussie rugby should not be your next move lol

    alt text

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    History is littered with league forwards being a success in rugby.

    He's the Wish Western Force's SBW...

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    History is littered with league forwards being a success in rugby.

    I'm not sure how to unpack that...

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    antipodean
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    @nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    History is littered with league forwards being a success in rugby.

    I'm not sure how to unpack that...

    Start with sarcasm exe

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    #4074

    Can't read the article, but Brumbies fans aren't happy with RA.

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    #4075

    But the Brumbies are bristling after a recent meeting with RA, in which Nobbs said the governing body presented a terms sheet with an offer to wipe the Brumbies’ debt if the club relinquished all aspects of its business, including intellectual property. The proposal was rejected, with the Brumbies determined to maintain a locally run club in Canberra.

    Mobbs admitted the Brumbies were one of several Australian outfits under financial duress but said it was due to RA cutting funding in 2021. When the Western Force returned to Super Rugby, the other four clubs had grants cut from $5.5 million a year to $3.9 million, and assurances it would go back up have not been met.

    “We have said from day one, we are happy to lead the charge [for an aligned high-performance system] and get it sorted. Because everyone accepts there has to be change. We have all seen the results. Things have got to change,” Nobbs said.

    “But the issue we have got, is the way we have been treated by RA has been appalling. They had us over the barrel, financially, and the only reason they had us over the barrel goes back to the reduction in funding from the last broadcast deal. The 30 per cent they reduced our funding, by $1.7 million, is the reason that we are in financial difficulty.

    “They inflicted it on us and to add to it, we are doing more now. We have a Super W program and that’s a significant investment to get that up and running. We are doing far more with less money.

    “So for them to turn around say, ‘You have to hand back everything, we will take full control of the Brumbies’, is not acceptable.”
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    RA declined to comment, saying negotiations with member unions were confidential and ongoing.

    With Australian rugby hitting rock bottom this week, chairman Hamish McLennan and chief executive Phil Waugh have both stressed the urgency for overdue structural reform. But Nobbs said there was a lack of detail from RA about the plan for centralisation.

    The Brumbies are concerned about the prospect of relocation if they hand over control and while RA has assured the club and the ACT government there are no such plans, Nobbs said there is “a lack of trust now”.

    “There is no collaboration or transparency. They are three big words that among a number of the member unions doesn’t exist. How you mend that, I don’t know,” Nobbs said.

    Hamish McLennan and Phil Waugh have stressed the urgency for reform in Australian rugby.CREDIT: GETTY
    The leadership of McLennan has come under scrutiny this week and pressure is mounting, with several member unions reportedly discussing potential change. An extraordinary general meeting can be called by two member unions.

    RA’s $1.6 million offer to NRL star Angus Crichton this week was met with incredulity by several member union sources, who declined to comment publicly due to the sensitivIty

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    #4076

    There's more but the hubris of RA beats even NZR

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
    wrote on last edited by NTA
    #4077

    The ponies are good on the field but broke as shit off it.

    The tahs are just broke.

    Neither can draw a crowd to generate gate funds.

    None of these fluffybunnies can run a program. RA is in debt up to its fucking eyeballs, and looking to take on more.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    The ponies are good on the field but broke as shit off it.

    The tahs are just broke.

    Neither can draw a crowd to generate gate funds.

    None of these fluffybunnies can run a program. RA is in debt up to its fucking eyeballs, and looking to take on more.

    What do people do in Canberra?

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
    replied to MiketheSnow on last edited by
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    @MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    The ponies are good on the field but broke as shit off it.

    The tahs are just broke.

    Neither can draw a crowd to generate gate funds.

    None of these fluffybunnies can run a program. RA is in debt up to its fucking eyeballs, and looking to take on more.

    What do people do in Canberra?

    Government work. @antipodean knows more 😜

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    antipodean
    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    @MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:

    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

    The ponies are good on the field but broke as shit off it.

    The tahs are just broke.

    Neither can draw a crowd to generate gate funds.

    None of these fluffybunnies can run a program. RA is in debt up to its fucking eyeballs, and looking to take on more.

    What do people do in Canberra?

    Government work. @antipodean knows more 😜

    We appear in Senate committee enquiries explaining the benefits of consultants... 😂

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