RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Both teams have a lot to play for I think. You can face either an All Black team that you have consistently beaten and has lost its identity or a very strong French side with their home crowd behind them and history beckoning. The path of least resistance to the final lies in the result of this game.
It is going to be a "home game" for the Irish with all the supporters there in France. They should tip SA. There will be a hell of a lot of whinging to the ref by the Irish so will be screaming for SA though. Complete fluffybunnies of an Irish team.Actually, Nienaber vs Fozzie stands at 3-3, so I'm somewhat hoping we will play SA in the QF.
Fozzie vs Farrell is 1-3 and Fozzie had covid for his 1.
Interesting quiz question - a giveaway since I'm asking it...
Which coach has the higher proportion of test wins Fozzie or Nienaber?
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t say no to a red card to sexton for a bit of lip. Or diving in the penalty area.
A red card and some stitches, if I was being petty and vindictive..but I'm not, so let the best, less lippy team win. Well done SA!
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Good prep for the most important match vs Scotland.
Should be interesting. Ireland will likely continue with their traditional 5-3 split on the bench - Conan the only one not available for selection.
Possible:
Keenan, Lowe, Ringrose, Aki, Hansen, Sexton, Murray/GP
Porter, Sheehan/Kelleher, Furlong, Ryan, Beirne, O'Mahony, van der Flier, Doris
R: Kelleher/Sheehan, Kilcoyne, Bealham, Henderson, McCarthy/Baird, Murray/GP, Byrne/Crowley, HenshawAnnouncement tomorrow Thursday
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Great interview.
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@pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
I really hate this selection.
Fuck Jasper Wiese
I honestly think Faf is the worst scrumhalf of the four in the squad.
Kolbe vs Mapimpi. Kolbe does all the pretty shit - Mapimpi scores tries. I prefer tries
The fucken bench. OK let's say the 7-1 is the right call, why not go with the scrumhalf that is actually half decent at playing wing (Williams).
But.... the 7 1 is stupid. Even France replaces Dupont at 70 min into the game. We can't sub Faf because we need to keep a very bad winger on the bench (just in case). So we have the power to turn things up in the last quarter, but we can't turn things up at 9. But even if we do, we have a crappy nine coming on anyway.
And the fucken hooker situation. Fourie is not a hooker. Even if his lineout game is good enough - we are giving up so much in the scrum.
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@pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Makes Foster look like a clown, O'Gara is Wayne Smith like in his knowledge and honesty. I just love a bloke who tells it like it is and knows what is going on.
Of interest he alluded to without directly saying it that some teams may actually be trying to get hit high to invoke Yellow and Red cards. And that rush defence can be harder for the defender to adjust their height and therefore maybe more prone to high shots.
Makes me think a smart coach will look at NZ and who gives away the most penalties and types of penalties and then try to milk that.
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@SidBarret said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@pakman said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
I really hate this selection.
Fuck Jasper Wiese
I honestly think Faf is the worst scrumhalf of the four in the squad.
Kolbe vs Mapimpi. Kolbe does all the pretty shit - Mapimpi scores tries. I prefer tries
The fucken bench. OK let's say the 7-1 is the right call, why not go with the scrumhalf that is actually half decent at playing wing (Williams).
But.... the 7 1 is stupid. Even France replaces Dupont at 70 min into the game. We can't sub Faf because we need to keep a very bad winger on the bench (just in case). So we have the power to turn things up in the last quarter, but we can't turn things up at 9. But even if we do, we have a crappy nine coming on anyway.
And the fucken hooker situation. Fourie is not a hooker. Even if his lineout game is good enough - we are giving up so much in the scrum.
In reverse order:
The hooker situation fills me with dread. And makes me wonder if the staff have fallen in love with their own cleverness.
But then again, if Fourie/MVS have been holding their own in our intersquad scrum sessions, I’m inclined to think they’ll go alright there this weekend. And if they haven’t been, then we’ve got much bigger issues with our Staff.
My guess is when we lost Marx the thinking went something like: how are we going to replace his presence at the breakdown? MVS plus Fourie just about does it. But also more or less forced them into 7-1.
If anything, that just underlines how weird this “solution” to Marx’s injury is. Like Rassniennies read the PEP stores discount moneyball comic and got all excited. Still, I keep telling myself those okes have mainly ridden the line between genius and lunacy pretty well.
If we aren’t able to sub Faf it’ll be because either: we need him to keep kicking for goal or we’ve had to bring Reinach on for another back.
In either case, I’d much rather have Reinach’s old head on the park than Williams whose done nothing as a test nine or wing to suggest he should be on the field in a game of this magnitude. To the contrary, in every fundamental aspect of halfback play he’s been gash.
I got the impression it was not Kolbe v Mapimpi. But rather Mapimpi v KLH. Tough call on Mapimpi but both KLH and Kolbe create more opportunities- for themselves and others. They also seem better at taking half chances. Off the top of my head Kolbe has the Lions series match winner, the break in the AB RWC 19 opener (which only Mounga’s heroics denied), a hand in PSTD’s tying try in AB 18 and the Farrell humiliation in 19 final. Sure I’m forgetting something but all I’ve got for Mapimpi is his chip for Am for his try in 19 final.
You keep stating Faf is our worst scrummie and I keep wondering why.
Fuck Jasper Wiese.
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@chimoaus Interesting video - I enjoyed that, thanks.
Hopefully bodes well for the future that Razor was smart enough to conscript O'Gara for a couple of seasons.
Interesting that his main principle for this Cup is to avoid France - and how highly he rates du Pont. So he wants us for this coming QF.
The other thing that I'd been wondering about was quite how good Ireland's record under Farrell is - according to ROG they've won 27 of their last 29. As he says, it gives you pause to think on. As above, I think I'd rather play play the Boks and I think we're at least a 50-50 shot to beat them. They are doing some strange shit and that's likely to come unstuck somewhere.
Unfortunately, I suspect ROG might well get his way. Ireland vs SA is bit of a battle of brains vs brawn and I've got a hunch that Ireland might be quite a bit better than I want them to be.
We'll see - but, in the poll I've picked them to win comfortably.
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@chimoaus said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Makes me think a smart coach will look at NZ and who gives away the most penalties and types of penalties and then try to milk that.
Maybe they already are/have?
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@nostrildamus havent had to try very hard either...
Our disipline has been poor for a number of years now, so this is not a new phenom for opposition to exploit.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus havent had to try very hard either...
Our disipline has been poor for a number of years now, so this is not a new phenom for opposition to exploit.
In the forwards it may have even got worse lately?
What really tugs my mountain goat is we still can't work out NH refs.
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Tipped Ireland. I just think they're too well organised and cheat magnificently.
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@antipodean said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Tipped Ireland. I just think they're too well organised and cheat magnificently.
So they are using "The McCaw" strategy, no wonder they are doing so well.
