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    G'day all, thought it would be interesting to keep track of any potential records occurring at this world cup.

    First one to track is All time appearances.
    Current record is held by Jason Leonard and Richie McCaw at 22 Appearances.

    Just so happens Sam Whitelock is currently on 19, so only needs 4 games to break the record. If they give him 3 pool games and the quarter, then the record is his.

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    Before that, there is a good chance of ABs first ever pool loss
    SA most ever wins, maybe even ABs. Or a new name on the trophy - Ireland or France
    Ireland first ever semi, seven a non 6N/RC side in the semi for the first time (I think)

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    @Machpants said in RWC: Records:

    Before that, there is a good chance of ABs first ever pool loss
    SA most ever wins, maybe even ABs. Or a new name on the trophy - Ireland or France
    Ireland first ever semi, seven a non 6N/RC side in the semi for the first time (I think)

    I don't think Argentina was in the RC the first time they made it, were they?

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    @canefan said in RWC: Records:

    @Machpants said in RWC: Records:

    Before that, there is a good chance of ABs first ever pool loss
    SA most ever wins, maybe even ABs. Or a new name on the trophy - Ireland or France
    Ireland first ever semi, seven a non 6N/RC side in the semi for the first time (I think)

    I don't think Argentina was in the RC the first time they made it, were they?

    I guess an oversight, but would still be the first non tier one nation? I don't know how the tier system works.

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    Perhaps getting giddy, but with Narawa's injury, Will Jordan will start v France, Namibia (15) and Italy, and potentially even Uruguay, as him and Telea are the only recognised right wing options, and I'd suggest it is likely he places through. On this basis could he score 9 tries for the record in a single tournament? If he plays vs all three latter teams, don't think it would be unreasonable, especially as he has 23 tries in 25 tests, so if the ABs can make the final, you can probably budget him scoring in the other games.

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    @frugby said in RWC: Records:

    @canefan said in RWC: Records:

    @Machpants said in RWC: Records:

    Before that, there is a good chance of ABs first ever pool loss
    SA most ever wins, maybe even ABs. Or a new name on the trophy - Ireland or France
    Ireland first ever semi, seven a non 6N/RC side in the semi for the first time (I think)

    I don't think Argentina was in the RC the first time they made it, were they?

    I guess an oversight, but would still be the first non tier one nation? I don't know how the tier system works.

    No such thing any more, tier system is gone. But Argentina were t1

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    Record Quiz: Who has the record for most try assists in one tournament? Please try not to look it up and have a guess.

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    Conrad Smith

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    @chimoaus said in RWC: Records:

    Record Quiz: Who has the record for most try assists in one tournament? Please try not to look it up and have a guess.

    When did they start recording that stat? Not a stat that was really talked about until relatively recently

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    @Machpants said in RWC: Records:

    SA most ever wins

    Would have to look at that but would put money that they can't catch us ... even post 1995

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    @booboo said in RWC: Records:

    @Machpants said in RWC: Records:

    SA most ever wins

    Would have to look at that but would put money that they can't catch us ... even post 1995

    Working this through ... from memorish...

    1995 SA win 1 more than us. -1
    1999 SA win 1 more than us. -2
    2003 NZ win 1 more pool game, QF and 3/4. +1
    2007 SA win 2 more than us. -2
    2011 NZ win QF, SF & F. +1
    2015 NZ win SF & F, SA win 3/4. +2
    2019 NZ win pool game, lose SF, win 3/4. +3

    That's just the tournaments SA have played in. Add the 11 games prior ...

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    @booboo said in RWC: Records:

    @Machpants said in RWC: Records:

    SA most ever wins

    Would have to look at that but would put money that they can't catch us ... even post 1995

    Sorry, just worked out you meant title wins.

    D'oh

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    @frugby said in RWC: Records:

    Perhaps getting giddy, but with Narawa's injury, Will Jordan will start v France, Namibia (15) and Italy, and potentially even Uruguay, as him and Telea are the only recognised right wing options, and I'd suggest it is likely he places through. On this basis could he score 9 tries for the record in a single tournament? If he plays vs all three latter teams, don't think it would be unreasonable, especially as he has 23 tries in 25 tests, so if the ABs can make the final, you can probably budget him scoring in the other games.

    Nah, against minnows like Uruguay they'll play a few players out of position. Didn't they chuck Jordie at 10 in one game, last time? Easiest is to just move Clarke or Fainga'anuku to the right wing to give them both a start.

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    @Stargazer said in RWC: Records:

    @frugby said in RWC: Records:

    Perhaps getting giddy, but with Narawa's injury, Will Jordan will start v France, Namibia (15) and Italy, and potentially even Uruguay, as him and Telea are the only recognised right wing options, and I'd suggest it is likely he places through. On this basis could he score 9 tries for the record in a single tournament? If he plays vs all three latter teams, don't think it would be unreasonable, especially as he has 23 tries in 25 tests, so if the ABs can make the final, you can probably budget him scoring in the other games.

    Nah, against minnows like Uruguay they'll play a few players out of position. Didn't they chuck Jordie at 10 in one game, last time? Easiest is to just move Clarke or Fainga'anuku to the right wing to give them both a start.

    On the assumption Narawa is replaced by a loose forward, this is my rough thought:

    v France:
    Telea, Jordan, B Barrett

    v Namibia
    Clarke/Fainga'anuku, Telea, Jordan

    v Italy
    Telea, Jordan, B Barrett

    v Uruguay
    Clarke/Fainga'anuku, Jordan, B Barrett

    I expect that as there are week-long breaks (two weeks between Namibia and Italy) they won't overly rotate in the backs. I think it is entirely possible Narawa was pencilled in for the Uruguay game only, so it is whether they go for Telea or Jordan I reckon, and I expect it will be Jordan. Fainga'anuku could get a trot at 13 in that game potentially...

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