Rugby World Cup general discussion
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@Dan54 said in Rugby World Cup news:
I not sure if we not pissed that it's Farrell who has got off with his record or all really just concerned about safety?
Are these mutually exclusive?
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@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup news:
@canefan said in Rugby World Cup news:
Did I read that World Rugby can appeal the ruling? I know they don't often cave to pressure, but if the condemnation rises they may be forced to do something or risk looking even worse than they already do
I'm pretty sure they did when an AB got a light sentence a few years ago, if I'm remembering correctly
Adam Thomson
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At this rate the referees will be too scared to ping Farrell for any of the numerous dangerous "tackles" he does in future because they know that even if they do card him (red or yellow) he is likely to escape judicial penalty and effectively make them (the referees) look incompetent.
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the most damning thing i think (other than the actual footage of a clear shoulder charge to the head)....i havent seen anyone defending him or applauding the result, another forum im on that is mostly english fans are all shocked and a bit embarrassed
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as much as i dislike being on the same side as rassie....
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@Kruse Obviously the RFU selectors need to put down their gin and tonics and weigh up the risks of the inevitability of his somewhat clumsy tackling technique happening yet again at the Webb Ellis Trophy. Clearly they need to factor in the points scored he may contribute toward against those the team concedes when they are a man down, but they are probably too pig headed to admit this.
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I just re-watched the tackle and this decision makes even less sense now. I swear we are watching a different incident
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@Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup news:
Tonga should immediately appeal Moala's ban.
I don't know what I expected to see when I saw the clip of Moala - to warrant the 5 week ban I expected he stabbed someone on the field.
How can these two decisions come out around the same time?
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@Nepia said in Rugby World Cup news:
@Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup news:
Tonga should immediately appeal Moala's ban.
I don't know what I expected to see when I saw the clip of Moala - to warrant the 10 week ban I expected he stabbed someone on the field.
How can these two decisions come out around the same time?
yeah...its mad, looks like the guy lands first on his shoulder too so yes...dangerous, should be punished....but 10 weeks?!?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby World Cup news:
@Nepia said in Rugby World Cup news:
@Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup news:
Tonga should immediately appeal Moala's ban.
I don't know what I expected to see when I saw the clip of Moala - to warrant the 10 week ban I expected he stabbed someone on the field.
How can these two decisions come out around the same time?
yeah...its mad, looks like the guy lands first on his shoulder too so yes...dangerous, should be punished....but 10 weeks?!?
I'm confused how a mid range sanction was 10 weeks too (despite being then mitigated down to 5 weeks).
I don't even think an Authoritarian dictator could come up with such an idiotic judicial system.
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@Nepia said in Rugby World Cup news:
@Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup news:
Tonga should immediately appeal Moala's ban.
I don't know what I expected to see when I saw the clip of Moala - to warrant the 5 week ban I expected he stabbed someone on the field.
How can these two decisions come out around the same time?
I agree, but as I said, it made by 2 different judiciary boards. How many times have we looked at sentences in a law court and said what the f***? It is frustrating I know but it happens all the time!
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@Dan54 said in Rugby World Cup news:
@Nepia said in Rugby World Cup news:
@Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup news:
Tonga should immediately appeal Moala's ban.
I don't know what I expected to see when I saw the clip of Moala - to warrant the 5 week ban I expected he stabbed someone on the field.
How can these two decisions come out around the same time?
I agree, but as I said, it made by 2 different judiciary boards. How many times have we looked at sentences in a law court and said what the f***? It is frustrating I know but it happens all the time!
Dan you are bending over backwards to make excuses for these guys. It's so much easier to join the rest of us united in outrage!
These panels don't operate in a vacuum. There is almost always a similar case with which to refer to. The almost universal condemnation is proof something very wrong has occurred
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@Dan54 Yep, two judiciary panels and two different offences.
Farrell - dangerous tackle - Law 9.13 - mid-range: suspension of 6 games if guilty
Moala - tip tackle - Law 9.18 - mid-range: suspension of 10 games if guiltyThe thing is, Farrell by all means looked guillty and because of the head contact, should have a mid-range starting point, but what Moala did probably didn't warrant a mid-range starting point, because the Canadian player didn't land dangerously (as far as I can see) and they should have applied a low-range starting point of 6 games. I can't remember Moala being a repeat offender, so he'd ended up with a 3-week ban. Farrell is a repeat offender but gets off the hook every damn time, so they'll probably consider him having a blank sheet, too.
Result would and should have (at least) been 3 weeks suspension for both, but we end up with Moala getting 5 and Farrell zero.
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mid-points and history don't mean anything when the panel somehow comes to the conclusion that it isn't a red card.
This may be the death of the early guilty plea, given even on super shakey, White Island type grounds, he got off by saying "wasn't a red card mate honest"
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@mariner4life and they have thrown the ref and the TMO under the bus too.
I mean the TMO supposedly got this really wrong, Farrell spent time on the sideline, 'incorrectly', does the TMO get sanctioned for this now?
WR heading down a very slippery slope here opening themselves up if this happens in a big game and they have a history of inconsistent decisions.
