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    @taniwharugby Yes it did - it needed to be invested into the clubs, our local is getting new carpet and other tidy up bits and pieces done so it's certainly welcome.

    However I'm still a little confused by the lack of promotion of the NPC which surely must deliver some cash to the unions? Updating social media at least for those who are interested isn't that hard.

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    As teams don't need to publicly release their playing 23 until 24 h prior to kick-off we might not see much media content for the Friday games until tomorrow. Ta$man and Taranaki are hosting games.

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    @Windows97 said in NPC 2023:

    Updating social media at least for those who are interested isn't that hard.

    A few points.

    Some provincial unions - probably for financial reasons - don't have a dedicated social media person. At those unions, it's just one of the employee's roles.

    Second, some unions have only one social media account per platform (they are sometimes on 2, rarely on 3 platforms) for everything, so for club rugby, Farah Palmer Cup, NPC and any coaching, referee, or rugby rippa programme they have. At most provinces, the club rugby season only just finished, and FPC just started, so any possible info about the NPC may have been crowded out by posts about other rugby events, teams etc.

    Third, my bugbear, for some unions, social media is more a marketing tool than a fan engagement tool. You see lots of posts about their local sponsors and sponsor events, but very little about the team. It seems to be improving a bit.

    Four, some are just utterly sh*t at fan engagement full stop. They have no understanding of what it is and what it requires. Don't understand that fans want to be kept informed about the squad, about injuries, about where the team is and doing what. (That applies to some SR franchises as well to a degree) In that situation, fans are basically dependent on the local media to do their job and ask the questions and publish the stories. With many smaller provinces not having a local paper or no dedicated sports/rugby journo anymore, and several bigger provinces having multiple competing sports & sports teams, the local media aren't always the alternative source of information they once were.

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    Vili Koroi will be playing for North Otago this season. Pretty decent fall for a lad who was in a Super squad two months ago.

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    @SouthernMann Why the fall from grace for these Otago/Highlanders outside backs? Freedom Vahakolo is playing rugby league in Auckland for Pt Chev and now Koroi at North Otago.

    I find it baffling that they have both fallen into no mans land. Surely they could find better gigs somewhere else.

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    @African-Monkey said in NPC 2023:

    @SouthernMann Why the fall from grace for these Otago/Highlanders outside backs? Freedom Vahakolo is playing rugby league in Auckland for Pt Chev and now Koroi at North Otago.

    I find it baffling that they have both fallen into no mans land. Surely they could find better gigs somewhere else.

    Koroi is a sevens player who hasn't nailed a position in 15s. There was high hopes he could be a 10. He simply isn't. In terms of outside backs just doesn't offer enough.

    With Freedom, sounds like he had some outside of footy issues.

    Just both weren't good enough really.

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    Stuff's preview

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300930098/npc-preview-can-canterbury-break-their-title-drought-in-2023

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    Southland should have picked up Koroi. Or he could have headed home to Manawatū.

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    @Bovidae yeah, have to admit i never felt they were out of the depth at NPC level...hell...i would have been starting both of them over some people we've given jerseys too

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    @SouthernMann Fair enough, having said that, I'd have thought that they'd be good enough for a gig somewhere else, be that for another NPC team, or even MLR.

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    When you look at some of the players with contracts around the traps, I find it bizarre nobody offered Koroi a deal.

    Vaha'akolo is a different case altogether.

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    @Duluth said in NPC 2023:

    The first game kicks off in 2 days so i thought I'd check the official site

    Latest news? Zero on the NPC. All their time seems to be taken up with the Woman's competition, the last story on male rugby was on the 21st of June. Squad lists are of course still 2022

    What about the large media sites?

    Stuff in their provincial rugby section basically has no stories about the NPC (An AB story mentions players in warmup games, there is a Ranfurly Shield story and a couple of RTS articles in the last month)

    NZH? No real coverage, just a RTS story a while ago

    Rugbypass - I couldn't find anything about the NPC

    Newshub? Couldn't see anything

    1News - a story on Brad Shields. Within the last month a story on RTS and another on Crotty

    This sucks, pathetic from so called sports journalists. The Fern would have to be the best coverage in NZ for the NPC, which is ridiculous.

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    I remember as a youngster cutting out clippings from the Dom Post of anything Lions related in the build up to games.

    Obviously no one is getting papers anymore, but I do wonder if any kids have the same affinity a lot of us had for NPC back in the day.

    Me and my 30 something sport loving mates are still heavily in to it.

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    Media guides are still from 2022.

    Bunnings Warehouse NPC

    Bunnings Warehouse NPC

    No coverage at all from the NZ Herald. One article from Stuff.

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    @Kirwan totally agree NZR no better and you are right the Fern has the best coverage .

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    Auckland still has last year's squad up:

    https://www.aucklandrugby.co.nz/our-teams/bunnings-warehouse-npc-team-1

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    North Harbour's website doesn't even have a squad announcement, let alone a profile page.

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    A suggestion...

    Rugby’s National Provincial Championship (NPC) - beginning this weekend - needs someone to stand up and reshape it.

    The competition’s first division expansion to 14 teams in the 2000s had merit at the time - a different time, when there was some delineation between the Super Rugby, test and provincial seasons, and before the time-poor digital entertainment age that provides a constant distraction in the household.

    The top tier is too unwieldy and while the format is less messy than it was, it could use some panelbeating to bring it into 2023. A 10-team first division with two divisions of eight below it feels about right, with promotion and relegation automatic between divisions. You could even institute a playoff between the second-placed team in each division with the second from bottom to add more meaningful games for viewers.

    An observation...

    A lot of the NPC unions - especially in the top flight - have their heads in the sand about their place in the pecking order in rugby in New Zealand. This isn’t your father or grandfather’s NPC.

    It’s a delicate balance given this is the height of the game for many unions. However, the financial losses that some of the provincial unions suffer seem to have no end in sight - and they simply cannot continue to wear these when the books are balanced at the end of the financial year.

    It’s pleasing to see some larger unions capitalise on - anecdotally at least - a renaissance in club rugby over the last couple of years, by taking games to smaller venues this season. That may start to lessen the financial load.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by Bovidae
    #372

    @Tim said in NPC 2023:

    Media guides are still from 2022.

    It looks like there will be no media guides for 2023. The links now takes you to the PU's media releases for their squads. The same for the FPC teams.

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by Stargazer
    #373

    @Bovidae That's a pity. Those media guides were useful and those media releases don't include players that have been added to squads after the initial team namings, but before the season starts. It wouldn't be a problem if each PU had decent player profiles on their websites, but that's not the case.

    Several PU's, including my own, still have the 2022 squads on their site. 🙄

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