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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by Kiwiwomble
    #348

    @Stargazer well, in lots of competitions around the world its an independent body like the English Football League or run by the clubs them selves such as the Premier league

    so not a completely stupid question to double check, especially when NZR itself does so little to promote the comp, as you say leaving it largely to the unions themselves

    @mariner4life guess that would make sense

    the whole rugby marketing thing just seems to flawed, even in super how not only is the the individual team stuff and how they all do if differently...but then the 5 NZ teams do stuff together...but the aussies ones dont do as much...but some...and the two others stand alone....its very disjointed

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    The sad thing is that it doesn't appear that the unions themselves are trying particularly hard to promote the NPC either...out counting their silverlake money and hoping it lasts forever?

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    @Windows97 I think the silver lake money came with conditions around development and grass roots didn't it, not here's a million, go hard...

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #351

    @taniwharugby would love to see some sort of program or timetable around what those conditions were

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    #352

    And another media release today:

    https://www.allblacks.com/news/bunnings-npc-2023-season-preview/

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    #353

    @Bovidae They read the Fern!

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    #354

    @taniwharugby Yes it did - it needed to be invested into the clubs, our local is getting new carpet and other tidy up bits and pieces done so it's certainly welcome.

    However I'm still a little confused by the lack of promotion of the NPC which surely must deliver some cash to the unions? Updating social media at least for those who are interested isn't that hard.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #355

    As teams don't need to publicly release their playing 23 until 24 h prior to kick-off we might not see much media content for the Friday games until tomorrow. Ta$man and Taranaki are hosting games.

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    @Windows97 said in NPC 2023:

    Updating social media at least for those who are interested isn't that hard.

    A few points.

    Some provincial unions - probably for financial reasons - don't have a dedicated social media person. At those unions, it's just one of the employee's roles.

    Second, some unions have only one social media account per platform (they are sometimes on 2, rarely on 3 platforms) for everything, so for club rugby, Farah Palmer Cup, NPC and any coaching, referee, or rugby rippa programme they have. At most provinces, the club rugby season only just finished, and FPC just started, so any possible info about the NPC may have been crowded out by posts about other rugby events, teams etc.

    Third, my bugbear, for some unions, social media is more a marketing tool than a fan engagement tool. You see lots of posts about their local sponsors and sponsor events, but very little about the team. It seems to be improving a bit.

    Four, some are just utterly sh*t at fan engagement full stop. They have no understanding of what it is and what it requires. Don't understand that fans want to be kept informed about the squad, about injuries, about where the team is and doing what. (That applies to some SR franchises as well to a degree) In that situation, fans are basically dependent on the local media to do their job and ask the questions and publish the stories. With many smaller provinces not having a local paper or no dedicated sports/rugby journo anymore, and several bigger provinces having multiple competing sports & sports teams, the local media aren't always the alternative source of information they once were.

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    #357

    Vili Koroi will be playing for North Otago this season. Pretty decent fall for a lad who was in a Super squad two months ago.

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    #358

    @SouthernMann Why the fall from grace for these Otago/Highlanders outside backs? Freedom Vahakolo is playing rugby league in Auckland for Pt Chev and now Koroi at North Otago.

    I find it baffling that they have both fallen into no mans land. Surely they could find better gigs somewhere else.

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    @African-Monkey said in NPC 2023:

    @SouthernMann Why the fall from grace for these Otago/Highlanders outside backs? Freedom Vahakolo is playing rugby league in Auckland for Pt Chev and now Koroi at North Otago.

    I find it baffling that they have both fallen into no mans land. Surely they could find better gigs somewhere else.

    Koroi is a sevens player who hasn't nailed a position in 15s. There was high hopes he could be a 10. He simply isn't. In terms of outside backs just doesn't offer enough.

    With Freedom, sounds like he had some outside of footy issues.

    Just both weren't good enough really.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #360

    Stuff's preview

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300930098/npc-preview-can-canterbury-break-their-title-drought-in-2023

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    #361

    Southland should have picked up Koroi. Or he could have headed home to Manawatū.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #362

    @Bovidae yeah, have to admit i never felt they were out of the depth at NPC level...hell...i would have been starting both of them over some people we've given jerseys too

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    @SouthernMann Fair enough, having said that, I'd have thought that they'd be good enough for a gig somewhere else, be that for another NPC team, or even MLR.

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    #364

    When you look at some of the players with contracts around the traps, I find it bizarre nobody offered Koroi a deal.

    Vaha'akolo is a different case altogether.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Duluth said in NPC 2023:

    The first game kicks off in 2 days so i thought I'd check the official site

    Latest news? Zero on the NPC. All their time seems to be taken up with the Woman's competition, the last story on male rugby was on the 21st of June. Squad lists are of course still 2022

    What about the large media sites?

    Stuff in their provincial rugby section basically has no stories about the NPC (An AB story mentions players in warmup games, there is a Ranfurly Shield story and a couple of RTS articles in the last month)

    NZH? No real coverage, just a RTS story a while ago

    Rugbypass - I couldn't find anything about the NPC

    Newshub? Couldn't see anything

    1News - a story on Brad Shields. Within the last month a story on RTS and another on Crotty

    This sucks, pathetic from so called sports journalists. The Fern would have to be the best coverage in NZ for the NPC, which is ridiculous.

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    #366

    I remember as a youngster cutting out clippings from the Dom Post of anything Lions related in the build up to games.

    Obviously no one is getting papers anymore, but I do wonder if any kids have the same affinity a lot of us had for NPC back in the day.

    Me and my 30 something sport loving mates are still heavily in to it.

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  • TimT Away
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    Media guides are still from 2022.

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    No coverage at all from the NZ Herald. One article from Stuff.

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