All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2
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Fozzie on the news hinting he's keeping powder dry...
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
and I see no reason to think they don't.
Except for it taking multiple injuries and nearly 3 years before they tried Jordie at 12. That's a reason.
Yep, but I think they had it all sorted by the season. And as I said WE don't need to know they do. Also think they have to be still a little open.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Fozzie on the news hinting he's keeping powder dry...
Since 2017...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Fozzie on the news hinting he's keeping powder dry...
Yeah - I saw that and immediately thought that!
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Fozzie on the news hinting he's keeping powder dry...
I knew it!
The cup is basically ours
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Bovidae yep, the best hooker in our squad is wasted if he isn't playing 30+ minutes, we know Smith can play 80, and if this is tight, will probably play close to that, but he shouldn't be.
Mate we getting our best hooker starting I think, and personally think Samisoni coming on late will be good, against tiring Bok defence. I not sure they will be a leery of him as some teams are. He probably better against tiring defence, though with Boks having Marx on bench , I not sure that will count for a lot.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Fozzie on the news hinting he's keeping powder dry...
Also said what I had posted earlier, DMac has had a lot of rugby this season, and they had it worked out last week who was playing, as I said the clue was probably he played 80 minutes. Same with Sam W, I would rather play safe with him, have seen too many out with achillies flaring up.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
They don't appear to trust most of the new boys, so I'm ready to stand by my point that Roigard, Finau, and McCloud will likely make way for players from the ABXV when we get to the WC. I reckon Akira, Weber, and ?? will get the call up for that squad.
I'm not even slightly surprised those guys haven't got a run yet.
This is our biggest test of the pre-RWC - not really a time for rookies.
They've got to axe some players from the 36 man squad and there's some injured guys potentially to come back - e.g. Moody, Havili and Blackadder.
Barring injuries, I don't see McLeod going to RWC - I think it will be Jordie, Reiko, ALB and Dave.
I think Finau is pretty unlikely, because SBarrett and Frizz are likely their sixes and Blackadder and Akira are floating around.
That being the case - and this is harsh - giving those guys game time is potentially wasted time (except for the possibility of injury call ups).
Youre making my point for me then. They should be with the ABXV where they probably belong.
What ACT said, but also hell no if you're those guys.
Dallas McLeod far better off in terms of his chances of playing in this year's RWC spending 6 weeks with Fozzie than guys like Billy Proctor and Bailyn Sullivan who have gone to Japan with Leon
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Fozzie on the news hinting he's keeping powder dry...
Also said what I had posted earlier, DMac has had a lot of rugby this season, and they had it worked out last week who was playing, as I said the clue was probably he played 80 minutes. Same with Sam W, I would rather play safe with him, have seen too many out with achillies flaring up.
LOL what tiring defence? Without Sami on there is little in the front row to tire them out!
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
and I see no reason to think they don't.
Except for it taking multiple injuries and nearly 3 years before they tried Jordie at 12. That's a reason.
ouchy ouch.
At least they tried him at wing. The vision, the panache, the...
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@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
I think if there is one thing we can expect from Fozzie it's stubbornness and safety (OK that's 2 things) this close to the RWC
... and learnings. There are always learnings.
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@Dan54 I dont think any teams are 'leery' of any players.
But seems a waste to have one of our most destructive ball runners sitting on the pine watching, potentially only entering when the game is gone, or if tight and we are chasing it, means the game plan may be altered.
I'd love for Fozzie to stick it to everyone and pull 2023 out of the bag...
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
LOL what tiring defence? Without Sami on there is little in the front row to tire them out!
At least if Coles had been picked he could have tired them out with his subtly calibrated dad jokes...
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@Chris-B said in [All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2]
Dallas McLeod far better off in terms of his chances of playing in this year's RWC spending 6 weeks with Fozzie than guys like Billy Proctor and Bailyn Sullivan who have gone to Japan with Leon
wow. Way to slap down a Crusaders legend. I think you'll find he has been a highly successful double agent.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Stargazer 10am. Thrown by the wayside. Obviously a ploy to provide turmoil into the plans of those that follow on
The All Blacks XV dummy.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
pretty excited to see Telea and Jordan on the wings....does go against my gut to have the a specialised player like clark on the bench and starting the more utility players
Rieko covers both wings. Can't see need for Clarke and Ennor.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Frank said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Let's give Frizell his upteenth chance to prove he can't hack it against physical sides.
its this for me....great he had a good game against an undercooked argentina...but how many chances do guys get?
Didn't he come in for Ellis Park turnaround?
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I don’t think he is Dan. We need to set the tone from the start and with Samisoni on we can get the momentum we need to get our game going.
Taylor offers little in go foreword so by the time Samisoni comes on we might be walking him to perform minor miracles.
If Taylor was streets ahead in set piece then fine. But he is not
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
They don't appear to trust most of the new boys, so I'm ready to stand by my point that Roigard, Finau, and McCloud will likely make way for players from the ABXV when we get to the WC. I reckon Akira, Weber, and ?? will get the call up for that squad.
I'm not even slightly surprised those guys haven't got a run yet.
This is our biggest test of the pre-RWC - not really a time for rookies.
They've got to axe some players from the 36 man squad and there's some injured guys potentially to come back - e.g. Moody, Havili and Blackadder.
Barring injuries, I don't see McLeod going to RWC - I think it will be Jordie, Reiko, ALB and Dave.
I think Finau is pretty unlikely, because SBarrett and Frizz are likely their sixes and Blackadder and Akira are floating around.
That being the case - and this is harsh - giving those guys game time is potentially wasted time (except for the possibility of injury call ups).
Youre making my point for me then. They should be with the ABXV where they probably belong.
Not necessarily. I think there are some line ball calls on those positions / players.
Having those 3 young guys in the environment for the first time so the AB coaches can get a closer look at them, see how they train and run the AB systems in practice, is no small thing. And yes holding tackle bags is still needed….
i just think that with the injuries, with it being a RWC year, limited tests, the AB XV mini-series, there are a number of plates to spin. One being balancing game opportunity and the fact coaches still want to see certain players in action but they aren’t first choice ABs.
I don’t disagree, except there are better (or at least more trusted) players wearing the AB XV shirt this week. Time will tell I guess when we see the WC squad named.
