The Current State of Rugby
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@canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
i have to say, as a former front rower, i dont mind a bit of slogging, i think it can build a bit suspense and and make a flash backline play even more impressive...end to end helter skelter stuff loses my interest...got to have the fast and the slow for me
I don't like the faked injuries and breaks taken just so a bunch of gym bunnies can catch their breath. Rugby is not a bench press contest. If they can't handle the aerobic demands they should shape up so they can
i get the sentiment and of course i dont want to see fake injuries, but strength is literally part of rugby...its not just cardio... scrumming and mauls are big parts of rugby, literally the two team pushing against each other...i come from the stance of if people actually want to see those things removed from the game...go watch League and leave rugby alone
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@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
@canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
i have to say, as a former front rower, i dont mind a bit of slogging, i think it can build a bit suspense and and make a flash backline play even more impressive...end to end helter skelter stuff loses my interest...got to have the fast and the slow for me
I don't like the faked injuries and breaks taken just so a bunch of gym bunnies can catch their breath. Rugby is not a bench press contest. If they can't handle the aerobic demands they should shape up so they can
i get the sentiment and of course i dont want to see fake injuries, but strength is literally part of rugby...its not just cardio... scrumming and mauls are big parts of rugby, literally the two team pushing against each other...i come from the stance of if people actually want to see those things removed from the game...go watch League and leave rugby alone
Gotta get the balance right. I'm definitely in favour of taking a player who has an apparent injury off the field for treatment and only allowing them on again at the next main stoppage
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Not sure where else to put this, but feel it does give an insight into the state of the game.
Was good listening to Ben.
Rugby: Referee Ben O'Keeffe proud of public response after initial 'unprecedented' Super Rugby Pacific backlash | Newshub
He was the target of death threats after the Super Rugby Pacific final.
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@Kiwiwomble if you want more space on the field you have to make the ruck more competitive.
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@Smuts said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble if you want more space on the field you have to make the ruck more competitive.
Yes. This x1000
Incentivise the defending team to actually join the ruck.
My thoughts are always to be way harder on hands, and heavily penalise attacking teams being off their feet. -
@mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Smuts said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble if you want more space on the field you have to make the ruck more competitive.
Yes. This x1000
Incentivise the defending team to actually join the ruck.
My thoughts are always to be way harder on hands, and heavily penalise attacking teams being off their feet.We want to be sure we don't go too far the other way though. If it swings too far in favour of defence teams won't want to attack with ball in hand.
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@mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Smuts said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Kiwiwomble if you want more space on the field you have to make the ruck more competitive.
Yes. This x1000
Incentivise the defending team to actually join the ruck.
My thoughts are always to be way harder on hands, and heavily penalise attacking teams being off their feet.To be fair, that's actually just ref to the laws.
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@Bones this, we see all the time defending teams pinged for not supporting their own weight when going for the ball but the attacking team just pile on top of the tackled player to protect it
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@Kiwiwomble I actually only recently tried to figure out if it's actually illegal for an attacking team to collapse a maul. I'd just always thought it was, but couldn't actually figure it out. Is it?
I guess it's a tough job being a ref.
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@Bones and it stuff like that that makes me more and more lean towards just letting stuff go and let the team counteract stuff they dont like rather than relying on the ref
let teams sack mauls, you want to maul it? you better have perfect technique and if you can survive a sack then you're going to have a numerical advantage because the defending team has guys stuck on the ground
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Enforcing proper binding would help many aspects of the game
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@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Bones and it stuff like that that makes me more and more lean towards just letting stuff go and let the team counteract stuff they dont like rather than relying on the ref
let teams sack mauls, you want to maul it? you better have perfect technique and if you can survive a sack then you're going to have a numerical advantage because the defending team has guys stuck on the ground
I hate to go al @booboo on you, but it's not illegal to sack a maul 😁
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@Bones isn't it sacking the player rather than the maul? whatever, try and collapse the maul
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@Kiwiwomble collapse is illegal you fucken criminal. Been in Australia too long
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@Bones you're trolling me now
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@Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Bones you're trolling me now
I would fucking never
p.s. akira ioane may or may not sign for the highlanders
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@taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:
Not sure where else to put this, but feel it does give an insight into the state of the game.
Was good listening to Ben.
Rugby: Referee Ben O'Keeffe proud of public response after initial 'unprecedented' Super Rugby Pacific backlash | Newshub
He was the target of death threats after the Super Rugby Pacific final.
Cheers. Enjoyed that.
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It will look like sour grapes but I felt today was a particular low point in the game.
Post World Cup they need to revamp it. The nadir was embodied by the following:
Players in conjunction with physios going through a pantomime of feigning injury to get stuff looked at.
Props going down "injured" while they have a player in the bin. You can set your watch to it.
60 minutes to complete 40 minutes of play.
4 cards.
Some "held up" tries not looked at that should have been.
Moodie and Jordans tries should have stood for me.
Nit Picky refereeing that set the stall out early doors, but was then was abandoned as the game went on.
I cannot have anyone convince me that tonight a good product was served up.
110 pounds ticket price to watch that.
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A good point made on NPR:
the 'team yellow concept' needs to be reviewed. Barrett's first yellow was not a stone wall yellow card offence in and of itself, but he takes a yellow for the team. This yellow should not then be tied to the player, but to the team.
