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  • antipodeanA Online
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    <p>Can't see the Brumbies winning this. Not on their form. Regardless of the weather I'll go along to watch the Clan destroy them.</p>

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    <p>Stolen from another site and the link only works if you are foolish enough to pay to read the Australian. </p>
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    <p><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Brumbies star David Pocock can slow Highlanders’ style of play</span><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">THE AUSTRALIAN12:00AM JULY 20, 2016</span><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Bret Harris</span><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Senior rugby writer</span><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Sydney</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">David Pocock’s mere presence on the field will be enough to lift the Brumbies when they play the Highlanders in a sudden-death Super Rugby quarter-final in Canberra on Friday night, but he also holds the key to stopping the almost unstoppable New Zealand style of play.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Pocock is expected to be named today in the Brumbies team at openside flanker after recovering sufficiently from a fractured eye socket, which he sustained against England five weeks ago.</span><br><br><strong><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Pocock has an aura that New Zealanders call “mana” and it lifts the players around him.</span></strong><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“Poey is a world-class player,” Brumbies forwards coach Dan McKellar said.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“When you’ve got world-class players in your team and they come back into the dressing room it just adds a lot of confidence.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“He brings a lot of energy through his communication, through his preparation. It’s great to have him back.”</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Pocock’s trademark skill, his ability to turn the ball over at the breakdown, will be crucial to the Brumbies’ defence against the defending champions.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">While the five New Zealand teams have their own styles of play, a common feature is their ability to keep the ball alive. A ball scavenger such as Pocock can curb the Highlanders’ continuity in attack.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“He’s the best in the world at turnovers at the defensive breakdown. He helps our defence a lot,” McKellar said.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“When you’ve got a player like David who is constantly looking for that opportunity on the ball and you don’t have to defend for 15 or 16 phases at a time, it certainly helps from a defensive point of view.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“If we tackle well and give David, Fards (Scott Fardy) and Squeaks (Stephen Moore) good opportunities on the ground, then we can nullify the opposition’s attack.’’</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">Pocock has worn a protective face pad at training and McKellar said Pocock would not play if he did not receive medical clearance, but the Brumbies seem optimistic.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“We’re just waiting to hear back on final reports on the scans,” McKellar said. “He has trained well all week and he’s keen to play.’’</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">McKellar said the Highlanders posed a different challenge to the other New Zealand teams because they were more structured in attack.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“Of the New Zealand sides, they are a lot more structured than, say, the Hurricanes, Crusaders and Chiefs,” McKellar said.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“They play a pretty structured game. They kick a lot, both contestable and in behind the line.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“We need to make sure that defensively, like any of the New Zealand teams, we make our first- up tackles and deny the opportunity for offload and also make sure our back three cover the back of the field well because there are certainly going to be plenty of kicks coming our way.’’</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">The Brumbies’ set piece is expected to be one of their strengths but they have not forgotten that second-rower Sam Carter was heavily penalised for obstruction in the lineout in their loss to the Highlanders in Invercargill in April.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“The Highlanders had identified a certain area of our lineout to the referee before the game and we were penalised for it,” McKellar said.</span><br><br><span style="color:rgb(75,92,119);font-family:'Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);">“We’ve tweaked Carts’ blocking technique. We understand the referees are going to be looking out for it. It’s an accidental obstruction, I suppose. We don’t see that being an issue.”</span><br>
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  • nzzpN Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="598318" data-time="1468995215">
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    <p>Can't see the Brumbies winning this. Not on their form. Regardless of the weather I'll go along to watch the Clan destroy them.</p>
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    <p>Write them off at your peril.  Brums with PoBono are a far better side than without him.  Knockout games at home- you're always in with a crack.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    <p>To be fair, the Brumbies have seemed alright when Pocock has played, but rubbish without him. Job just got harder for the Clan.</p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    <p>gonna be a big ask for him to drag them up from the hole they dug themselves....how many weeks he been out? Although the forecast is rain, the Highlanders still seem to prefer an up tempo match, run him about.</p>

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  • MajorRageM Away
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="598324" data-time="1468997709">
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    <p>To be fair, the Brumbies have seemed alright when Pocock has played, but rubbish without him. Job just got harder for the Clan.</p>
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    <p>Has NZ rugby ever fallen for the Pocock factor?  I wouldn't really say we have.  Other countries certainly have.  I think he's hugely respected but I'm not sure this article accurately captures the way NZ rugby views him.</p>
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    <p>I don't think he's ever had the genuine effect on the game with us that he has with others.  Maybe its time for that to bite me in the arse!</p>

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="598326" data-time="1468998820"><p>Has NZ rugby ever fallen for the Pocock factor? I wouldn't really say we have. Other countries certainly have. I think he's hugely respected but I'm not sure this article accurately captures the way NZ rugby views him.<br><br>
    I don't think he's ever had the genuine effect on the game with us that he has with others. Maybe its time for that to bite me in the arse!</p></blockquote>
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    If you are taking test rugby, sure, the Wallabies with him haven't really "done much" to make NZers think twice about many of their players actually. <br><br>
    But I guess at Super level he's had a big influence on games. That round 1 effort against the Canes a case in point where he was dominant. As Chris said he's missed rugby this year and the Brumbies have suffered. <br><br>
    What has been noticeable over the last number of weeks is how badly the Brumbies backs are. Other than Toomua the rest have been rubbish.

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  • BonesB Online
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    I'm a big fan of players playing in the position described by their name. Whitelock has been dynamic and bruising recently, has basically been playing a great locking game.

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  • nzzpN Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="598330" data-time="1469000874">
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    <p>If you are taking test rugby, sure, the Wallabies with him haven't really "done much" to make NZers think twice about many of their players actually.</p>
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    <p>I'll disagree.</p>
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    <p>He is a sensational player, and adds massive amounts to the Wobbles.  He has limitations - not a great ball runner, and not a great lineout forward.  Also tends to look more for the turnover than play other facets, but what he does he does massively well.</p>
    <p>'</p>
    <p>The problem with Pooper as a combo is that the lineout is weakened, and playing Pocock at 8 doesn't suit the sort of game he plays. </p>
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    <p>That said, you can see how much the team misses him. He is genuinely world class, and while we nullify a lot of his ability when we play well, there is no doubting how good he is. At times he seems to have inherited the cloak of invisibility from McCaw.</p>

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  • MajorRageM Away
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    <p>Not really the point I'm making, nzzp.  I have no doubt about the ability of the player.</p>
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    <p>I just personally don't look at an Aussie team sheet that differently if he's on it like the above article seems to think - I guess mainly because I've always thought that we've handled him quite well.  Sure, he gets a few turnovers but against us, i've never really noticed him turn a game on his own.  Plenty of other Aussie players - George Smith, Steve Larkham etc - I've been much more wary of.</p>
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    <p>I've also not seen the column inches in NZ dedicated to Pocock (for rugby related reasons, at least), that I remember seeing for Smith, Larkham (amongst others).</p>

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    <p>Brumbies:</p>
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    <div>1. Scott Sio</div>
    <div>2. Stephen Moore (c)</div>
    <div>3. Ruan Smith</div>
    <div>4. Blake Enever</div>
    <div>5. Sam Carter</div>
    <div>6. Scott Fardy</div>
    <div>7. David Pocock</div>
    <div>8. Jarrad Butler</div>
    <div>9. Tomás Cubelli</div>
    <div>10. Christian Lealiifano (c)</div>
    <div>11. Robbie Coleman</div>
    <div>12. Matt Toomua</div>
    <div>13. Tevita Kuridrani</div>
    <div>14. Nigel Ah Wong</div>
    <div>15. Aidan Toua</div>
    <div> </div>
    <div>Reserves</div>
    <div> </div>
    <div>16. Josh Mann-Rea</div>
    <div>17. Allan Alaalatoa</div>
    <div>18. Leslie Leulua’iali’i-Makin</div>
    <div>19. Tom Staniforth</div>
    <div>20. Michael Wells</div>
    <div>21. Joe Powell</div>
    <div>22. Andrew Smith</div>
    <div>23. James Dargaville</div>
    <div>24. Lausii Taliauli</div>
    <div> </div>
    <div>(one to be omitted)</div>
    <div> </div>
    <div><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.brumbies.com.au/2016/07/brumbies-name-side-quarter-final-showdown-highlanders/'>https://www.brumbies.com.au/2016/07/brumbies-name-side-quarter-final-showdown-highlanders/</a></div>

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="598347" data-time="1469006780"><p>I'll disagree.<br><br>
    He is a sensational player, and adds massive amounts to the Wobbles. He has limitations - not a great ball runner, and not a great lineout forward. Also tends to look more for the turnover than play other facets, but what he does he does massively well.<br>
    '<br>
    The problem with Pooper as a combo is that the lineout is weakened, and playing Pocock at 8 doesn't suit the sort of game he plays. <br><br>
    That said, you can see how much the team misses him. He is genuinely world class, and while we nullify a lot of his ability when we play well, there is no doubting how good he is. At times he seems to have inherited the cloak of invisibility from McCaw.</p></blockquote>
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    I don't doubt his ability and I also think he is an excellent player. And yes an Aussie side with Pocock is better than one without. <br><br>
    But I just don't think he has the gravitas with the NZ public that other Aussie players have had over the years. Even the Evil Wizard had more. Then of course Gregan, Eales, Campo, Horan, Bernie, Burkey have caused more trips to the local psych for many NZers...,

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="598323" data-time="1468997520">
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    <p>Write them off at your peril.  Brums with PoBono are a far better side than without him.  Knockout games at home- you're always in with a crack.</p>
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    <p>Congrats on pointing out the self evident truth that a team in a knockout final has a chance. The Brumbies have look stifled and bereft of imagination on attack., Pocock's not the sort of player that's going to fix that issue.</p>
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="598347" data-time="1469006780">
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    <p>I'll disagree.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>He is a sensational player, and adds massive amounts to the Wobbles.  He has limitations - not a great ball runner, and not a great lineout forward. </p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>When you say not great, you mean shit?</p>

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  • F Offline
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    Missing Ben Alexander and Rory Arnold in the pack. Butler is a bit of a journeyman at 8. Fairly toothless back three without Tomane or Speight. Bench looks a little uninspiring.<br><br>
    Can't see it happening for the Brumbies. Sole Aus rep to be bundled in the quarters.

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  • MilkM Offline
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    <p>I definitely look at an Aussie team with Pocock in it with more trepidation. He can be nullified, but the All Blacks need to actively focus on doing that, and when they don't he keeps Australia in the game.</p>
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    <p>He's not the best player in the world, but he is absolutely exceptional at one particular skill that can really disrupt the teams he's playing against.</p>

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  • nzzpN Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="598388" data-time="1469043782">
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    <p>I definitely look at an Aussie team with Pocock in it with more trepidation. He can be nullified, but the All Blacks need to actively focus on doing that, and when they don't he keeps Australia in the game.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>He's not the best player in the world, but he is absolutely exceptional at one particular skill that can really disrupt the teams he's playing against.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>When he is one of their few quality forwards, then he can be stopped and disrupted.  The problem is if the depth chart starts to stack up for them, then it gets tough.  Stop Pocock, and others make hay.  It's the Jonah effect all over again - defences may stop him, but that opens up space everywhere else.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>In terms of influencing games, ask the SA team at the 2011 world cup the effect he can have.  </p>

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  • nzzpN Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="598378" data-time="1469017948">
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    <p>Congrats on pointing out the self evident truth that a team in a knockout final has a chance. The Brumbies have look stifled and bereft of imagination on attack., Pocock's not the sort of player that's going to fix that issue.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>The point I'm making is they are more than just a chance.  Playing knockout games at home means even with a crap attack, the Brums could very readily get up and win this,  By comparison, play at a neutral or Highlanders venue, I'd say a very low chance of winning.</p>

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    <p>I'm interested in the last two lines. The Brumbies' main attacking weapon is the maul, and they are all but admitting they have a lock acting as a blocker, and actively train for it. That's an astounding thing to say going in to a game. </p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    <p>it's only accidental though...everytime, I suppose.</p>

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    <p>oh, no worries then....</p>

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