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  • BonesB Online
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    @antipodean said in Best of all time?:

    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    @MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback

    No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure

    Smith the shorter or Smith the lawyer?

    Still not sure which is which after David

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    @MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback

    A lot of backs and only 2 forwards, nary a prop?

    The best All Blacks XV: What is New Zealand's greatest front row?

    The best All Blacks XV: What is New Zealand's greatest front row?

    A host of ex-NZ internationals and leading Kiwi broadcasters and journalists have asked who would make an all-time All Blacks XV.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @antipodean said in Best of all time?:

    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    @MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback

    No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure

    Smith the shorter or Smith the lawyer?

    (Wood at 2)
    Smith at 9
    (O'Driscoll at 13)
    (and too much choice ... Nepia, Clarke, Blanco, Hastings, Cullen ... at 15)

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to booboo on last edited by
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    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    @antipodean said in Best of all time?:

    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    @MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback

    No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure

    Smith the shorter or Smith the lawyer?

    (Wood at 2)
    Smith at 9
    (O'Driscoll at 13)
    (and too much choice ... Nepia, Clarke, Blanco, Hastings, Cullen ... at 15)

    You've been drinking.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @antipodean said in Best of all time?:

    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    @MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback

    No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure

    Smith the shorter or Smith the lawyer?

    The shorter

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    and too much choice ... Nepia, Clarke, Blanco, Hastings, Cullen ... at 15

    15 is really, really hard for me too.

    Replace Clarke & Hastings with JPR and Ben Smith. Huge fan of Big Gav but not in JPR or BFA's league

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by BerniesCorner
    #155

    GOAT NZ
    Peak player not longevity

    Paekak Ex
    JK
    Lomu
    Bunce
    Smokin J
    Carter
    Smith
    ZZB
    Kaino
    McCaw
    Retallick
    Whitelock
    O Brown
    Coles
    McDowell

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #156

    @BerniesCorner

    Hard to disagree for a modern-ish era. I'd swap Nonu for Joe S though.

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    @booboo said in Best of all time?:

    @MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    If it included Fitzpatrick, Kaino, McCaw, Smith, Carter, Nonu, Lomu, Cullen you wouldn't get much pushback

    No, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, not sure

    8 names and 7 answers.....

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    if i am honest, if i stuck mine out in the wider public it would get just as torn to shreds as it is packed with kiwis. packed

    You can argue that Ian McGeechan agrees with you. He's picked his best ever and it's packed with Kiwis - packed.

    Rugby Rucker  /  Oct 20, 2022

    Sir Ian McGeechan picks all-time XV - includes three England legends - Ruck

    Sir Ian McGeechan picks all-time XV - includes three England legends - Ruck

    Sir Ian McGeechan has picked his all-time greatest XV, but there is no room in his selection for Paul O’Connell, David Campese or Jonny Wilkinson.  Get your tickets to the…

    Lomu, Kirwan, Carter, Zinzan, McCaw, Fitzpatrick.

    A few I'd swap - but, no duds in Ian's team - no Jaapies either. Can't say I remember much about Tom Smith.

    I'd pick Danie Gerber over Brian and look at Oz du Randt vs Leonard.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    for full transparency

    Cullen
    Wilson
    Bunce
    Horan
    Lomu
    Carter
    VdVH
    Zinny
    Richie
    J Smith
    Matfield
    Johnson
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Os dR

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #160

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    for full transparency

    Cullen
    Wilson
    Bunce
    Horan
    Lomu
    Carter
    VdVH
    Zinny
    Richie
    J Smith
    Matfield
    Johnson
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Os dR

    Challenge would be a team willing to play that one!

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  • S Offline
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    Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

    Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

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  • S Offline
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    #162

    Smokin Joe Rokocoko gets in mine.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by booboo
    #163

    @Crucial said in Best of all time?:

    @mariner4life said in Best of all time?:

    for full transparency

    Cullen
    Wilson
    Bunce
    Horan
    Lomu
    Carter
    VdVH
    Zinny
    Richie
    J Smith
    Matfield
    Johnson
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Os dR

    Challenge would be a team willing to play that one!

    First alternatives that spring to mind off the top of my head with no deep thought. All open to debate.

    1 and 11 don't leap out at me - need to have a think.

    Would give them a go though (until the two man advantage kicked in)

    Blanco
    Kirwan
    O'Driscoll
    Nonu
    ?
    Wilkinson
    Smith A
    Read
    Kaino
    Smith G
    Eales
    Jones AW
    Furlong
    Wood
    ?

    (Lack of Jaaps though 🫤 )

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @Steve said in Best of all time?:

    Christian Cullen is the GOAT fullback.

    Conrad 13, Read 8, Whitelock, Smith 9 won back to back world cups....

    smith didn't debut for the AB's till 2012.....

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    A best ever bench players would be interesting.

    Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

    Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

    From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

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  • MN5M Online
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    @KiwiMurph said in Best of all time?:

    A best ever bench players would be interesting.

    Not just the next best players but players who delivered off of the bench.

    Obviously this would be limited to the last 25 years or so.

    From NZ the likes of Beauden, Faumuina, Weepu come to mind.

    Hi

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by nostrildamus
    #167

    @Chris-B said in Best of all time?:

    Sir Ian McGeechan picks all-time XV - includes three England legends - Ruck

    That isn't a bad list and I really like the way he considered loosie and centre combos.
    Carter cancels Johnny out (have one or the other but I'd pick Carter as well), I wonder if Eales would be that rugged for the modern game, and I wonder if a French or Argentinian prop might get a look in. But not a horrible selection anywhere IMO.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @booboo Michael Jones at 7!

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