Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion
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Not that he was in the Blues' sights, but where does this leave them. Are they now talking to Cotter?
The deathly silence from Auckland implies either some behind the scenes recruiting that the gossip grapevine isn't picking up on or they are waiting for other teams to throw them the candidates they don't want. -
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@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crucial Just means that the Blues org talks less to the media. Not a bad thing.
True but I don't really believe he Blues are that leak proof and rumours circulate quite easily as shown by the other two franchises (and the Blues up to recently)
Maybe whoever they are targeting requires stuff to be kept on the low while they sort out other stuff and that would be good.For instance, I would think that Cotter would not like them to disclose or leak any discussions while he was interviewing with the Saders.
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@Crucial Nogusta knows who it is, so they aren't fully leak proof.
I just find it amusing the narrative you are trying to push that the Blues are missing out on their choices. You don't know who they are going to. At all.
A journalist saying the Blues are targeting x y z, it no different than a poster reporting a rumour here. In fact, some of the posters here have better track records at predicitions.
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@Stargazer I understand, it was after all at least three posts earlier;
"the deathly silence from Auckland implies either some behind the scenes recruiting that the gossip grapevine isn't picking up on or they are waiting for other teams to throw them the candidates they don't want."
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@Stargazer call it what you like, but it's also the Fern way to call bullshit on made up stuff.
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@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Stargazer call it what you like, but it's also the Fern way to call bullshit on made up stuff.
I'm confused. Am I making up that there is silence from the Blues?
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I did wonder a while back if the Blues were making a mess of recruitment when it was reported that they had missed out on two preferred candidates. Just stating what was reported as fact and wondering if that would impact things with further candidates knowing they re at least 3rd preference.
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@Crucial said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I did wonder a while back if the Blues were making a mess of recruitment when it was reported that they had missed out on two preferred candidates. Just stating what was reported as fact and wondering if that would impact things with further candidates knowing they re at least 3rd preference.
No agenda or narrative in that.Any my point is that you (and all of us) have no idea who their preferred candidates are, just lots of speculation in the press. Unlike other orgs, the Blues have kept quiet.
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@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crucial You forgetting what you write?
"they are waiting for other teams to throw them the candidates they don't want"
Nice editing out of the word 'or'. My poor punctuation in missing the question mark but that word makes it clearly a question.
Speculation and raising questions is a big part of a discussion board is it not?
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@Crucial said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crucial You forgetting what you write?
"they are waiting for other teams to throw them the candidates they don't want"
Nice editing out of the word 'or'. My poor punctuation in missing the question mark but that word makes it clearly a question.
Speculation and raising questions is a big part of a discussion board is it not?
As is pointing out when speculation is unfounded and verring into fantasyland. You do know a discussion is two way right?
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@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crucial said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crucial You forgetting what you write?
"they are waiting for other teams to throw them the candidates they don't want"
Nice editing out of the word 'or'. My poor punctuation in missing the question mark but that word makes it clearly a question.
Speculation and raising questions is a big part of a discussion board is it not?
As is pointing out when speculation is unfounded and verring into fantasyland. You do know a discussion is two way right?
How is it unfounded when there are no clear known options? Of course there will be speculation just as the press have done. So far they have been 'in the know' around the Saders and Canes so it's valid to wonder why not the Blues.
You keep stating that they are great at keeping quiet. You have as much proof of that as I have of them scrambling.I'm happy for discussion around it, just not having my posts called bullshit, being accused of pushing a narrative or implication that my speculation is any more unfounded than your own.
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Your comment about "OR they are waiting for other teams to throw them the candidates they don't want" is unfounded bullshit.
Just because journalists don't know who the options are doesn't meant here are no clear options. As I said, it looks like the Blues (based on the lack of leaks) are treating the hiring process with a bit more privacy than other orgs.
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@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Just because journalists don't know who the options are doesn't meant here are no clear options. As I said, it looks like the Blues (based on the lack of leaks) are treating the hiring process with a bit more privacy than other orgs.
Where have I heard that before? That's right I typed this just before the bit you (mis(quoted)
@Crucial said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
The deathly silence from Auckland implies either some behind the scenes recruiting that the gossip grapevine isn't picking up on
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At least you've adjusted to 'it looks like' instead of stating it as fact.
@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Unlike other orgs, the Blues have kept quiet.
Other orgs haven't made statements until their signing was done but the press managed to find out what what was going on. Have they kept quiet or is there not much to find out? Valid question IMO.
There has been rumour that Coventry isn't happy about the situation but that could also be speculation as Blues have stated that they are looking for "an elder statesman"
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@Kirwan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I know you don't like being corrected, but you were not misquoted. You said something stupid, implying you (or some journalists) knew who the Blues choices were and were being gazumped, when in reality you have no idea.
Of course I have no idea, nor do you.
You've twisted this in a negative way.
I'm not implying that they are being gazumped at all. eg Cotter may have been sounded out by Saders and Blues but had already done his application/proposal to Saders so asked to wait for the outcome.
That's just two franchises competing for one coach. Nothing bad about that. One will be the candidate's preference and they could end up that franchise's discard. My implication was that Blues could be waiting.
Maybe they see him as a good fit for them so are happy to let it play out.
Who else fits the 'elder statesman' criteria? I'm struggling to think of anyone currently available.
