Liam Messam shock AB recall ?
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<p>I think that is the sticking point, he wasn't contracted by the Chiefs, but I guess he was to the NZRU?</p>
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<p>I guess the question they're asking is "Have you got four fit loose forwards who were named in your original squad and<strong> can reasonably cover the match requirements</strong>"?</p>
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<p>Seems like the answer is "Yes".</p>
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<p>Supplementary question.</p>
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<p>Then why do you need Messam?</p>
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<p>Probable answer - because he's a shit load better than Koloamatangi.</p>
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<p>I think even the delay in deciding on his eligibility is quite explicable, because the first question couldn't be answered until after the final play-off game.</p>
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<p>So you're saying that the bigwigs in SANZAR have no understanding of the differences in position between 6/8 and 7? </p>
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<p>The Chiefs now have two 7s and no 6 cover unless they use their lock cover in that position and then they have no lock cover.</p>
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<p>I wonder if the fact they played Cane at 8 in a one off game is counting against them now? Even though his entire career has been as a 7.</p> -
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<p>So you're saying that the bigwigs in SANZAR have no understanding of the differences in position between 6/8 and 7? </p>
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<p>The Chiefs now have two 7s and no 6 cover unless they use their lock cover in that position and then they have no lock cover.</p>
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<p>I wonder if the fact they played Cane at 8 in a one off game is counting against them now? Even though his entire career has been as a 7.</p>
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<p>They have Tevita Koloamatangi who is primarily a 6 who can play 7 for the Mako$. :)</p>
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<p>What does Bardoul play?</p>
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<p>Sanders is a 6/8 and as you say, it's hard to say Cane can't play 8 when he's played there.</p> -
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<p>They have Tevita Koloamatangi who is primarily a 6 who can play 7 for the Mako$. :)</p>
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<p>What does Bardoul play?</p>
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<p>Sanders is a 6/8 and as you say, it's hard to say Cane can't play 8 when he's played there.</p>
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<p>Koloamatangi is a 7, he's always been selected as a 7 in the Chiefs.</p>
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<p>Bardoul is on the injured list. Boshier is the fit one starting with the letter B and he's primarily a 7.</p>
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<p>Sanders is the one actual 6 left standing.</p>
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<p>You're doing a lot of work defending your Ta$man boy's place in the team. ;)</p> -
<p>Have to say, I'm much more surprised that Lambie is barred from playing if, as it seems, he's been part of the Sharks squad from the start. That's pretty hardline.</p>
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<p>Presumably the Chiefs had to receive a dispensation even to use Koloamatangi.</p> -
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<p>Koloamatangi is a 7, he's always been selected as a 7 in the Chiefs.</p>
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<p>Bardoul is on the injured list. Boshier is the fit one starting with the letter B and he's primarily a 7.</p>
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<p>Sanders is the one actual 6 left standing.</p>
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<p>You're doing a lot of work defending your Ta$man boy's place in the team. ;)</p>
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<p>Koloamatangi is a 6.</p>
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<p>Shane Christie is the Mako's primary 7. TK has covered there when he's been injured and off the bench.</p> -
<p>ITM/MItre 10 play doesnt count for much these days, didnt the Chiefs prop that caused all the controversy recently play the side at ITM that he couldnt at Super level?</p>
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<p>Koloamatangi is a 6.</p>
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<p>Shane Christie is the Mako's primary 7. TK has covered there when he's been injured and off the bench.</p>
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<p>We're talking Chiefs here, not some satellite Christchurch team based in Malborough. :)</p> -
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<p>We're talking Chiefs here, not some satellite Christchurch team based in Malborough. :)</p>
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<p>Well go ask your coach...sorry, your assistant coach! :)</p>
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<p>Note the photo...</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/117327/rugby-much-otago-win'>http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/117327/rugby-much-otago-win</a></p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/9746772/Big-game-for-little-known-flanker-Koloamatangi'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/9746772/Big-game-for-little-known-flanker-Koloamatangi</a></p>
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<p>And a full explanation from Chief's loose forward Tevita Koloamatangi.</p> -
<p>It's distinctly unsporting to bring facts to a Fern discussion Chris! For shame. Actually those don't really refute my point anyway - one is from 2010 and the other says he's a specialist 7 but needs to play 7 at Ta$man due to Christie being there - and they're both discussing Ta$man, not the Chiefs. </p>
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<p>Just reassuring you that you've got lots of cover
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<p>Koloamatangi will only be on the bench. I'd say he covers 6 and 7 after Boshier, with Cane the other option at 8.</p>
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<p>Rennie has 2 options:</p>
<p>(1) the loose forwards that started vs the Crusaders (Seu, Cane, Sanders)</p>
<p>(2) the loose forwards that started vs the Reds (Sanders, Boshier, Cane)</p>
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<p>I'd go with option 1 but that means Retallick and Bird will probably have to play the full 80. </p>
