internet/streaming
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@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
That's a lot of cost to the ISP and Wholesaler to manage. Hopefully things over there will go as ours did and the bigger plans become the norm.
That's unlikely in the medium term. The demand appears to be quite price elastic when one looks at the market proportion of plans. And they're not going to be further discounted when the NBN has a set margin it must apply to the cost of provision. That would take a considerable change in policy from the government of the day.
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@antipodean said in internet/streaming:
@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
That's a lot of cost to the ISP and Wholesaler to manage. Hopefully things over there will go as ours did and the bigger plans become the norm.
That's unlikely in the medium term. The demand appears to be quite price elastic when one looks at the market proportion of plans. And they're not going to be further discounted when the NBN has a set margin it must apply to the cost of provision. That would take a considerable change in policy from the government of the day.
Here it wasn't a discount of price it was receiving more for the same. If it costs as much to provide 300 as it does 100 then why not provide the 300 unless you have lots of people willing to pay more for that level? If those that want more are willing to pay for gig plans and leave a demand gap for the mid range then you may as well lift the baseline.
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@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
@antipodean said in internet/streaming:
@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
That's a lot of cost to the ISP and Wholesaler to manage. Hopefully things over there will go as ours did and the bigger plans become the norm.
That's unlikely in the medium term. The demand appears to be quite price elastic when one looks at the market proportion of plans. And they're not going to be further discounted when the NBN has a set margin it must apply to the cost of provision. That would take a considerable change in policy from the government of the day.
Here it wasn't a discount of price it was receiving more for the same. If it costs as much to provide 300 as it does 100
It doesn't.
If those that want more are willing to pay for gig plans and leave a demand gap for the mid range then you may as well lift the baseline.
The demand isn't there. Outside of the tiny percentage of geeks, the market is currently quite content with the lower tier, which services their needs. And that's not where the margins are for the NBN to recoup its considerable costs.
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@antipodean I understand that isn't the current situation in Oz, just saying that NZ was similar but over a reasonably short period (much faster than predicted), these things all happened.
I think my basic fibre plan went from 60 to 100 to 300 speed wise over a couple of years. The lead in for that first unpaid upgrade was probably 4-5 years as the market established itself (rollout and uptake) -
@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
@antipodean I understand that isn't the current situation in Oz, just saying that NZ was similar but over a reasonably short period (much faster than predicted), these things all happened.
I think my basic fibre plan went from 60 to 100 to 300 speed wise over a couple of years. The lead in for that first unpaid upgrade was probably 4-5 years as the market established itself (rollout and uptake)New Zealand did the opposite of Australia's rollout in every conceivable way, hence why you're getting a vastly better product. Any sensible change here is paralysed by the brilliance of the elected officials who thought they knew best how to create a modern network.
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Updated my speed to 500/50.
Another company offer 1000/50 for the same price, which is probably the limit of the hardware I have... the hassle is reconfiguring everything and getting the VOIP transferred.
I'll sit on this for a while and see. Really this is just vanity speed (for this part of the world) as I could live with 100/40
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@NTA said in internet/streaming:
Updated my speed to 500/50.
Another company offer 1000/50 for the same price, which is probably the limit of the hardware I have... the hassle is reconfiguring everything and getting the VOIP transferred.
I'll sit on this for a while and see. Really this is just vanity speed (for this part of the world) as I could live with 100/40
You've gone from having the worst internet of the Oz based posters to the best.
I feel like I'm in the dark ages with my 100/40.
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@NTA said in internet/streaming:
@Nepia to be honest, it's mostly vanity
I thought so too, until I had to download some large files for work. 500MB just appears; interacting with high data models it really makes a difference. Still a 'nice to have' but it's well down from 'vanity'
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Finally an indication from NBN that my internet will be upgraded to FTTP from Dec this year.
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@Stockcar86 said in internet/streaming:
@NTA That's the NSA connecting
They already know I like Thicc Chicks.
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@Nepia said in internet/streaming:
@Kruse said in internet/streaming:
and a big patch 500m north... in the middle of the ocean
You'll need your 5G while you're relaxing on your luxury yacht.
and Tim has just the music for you...
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After a few months of having a fibre connection, and getting a little giddy on the plans available, I settled on 100/40 - peasant quality compared to other nations, but offers the best balance of price, download, and most importantly for work: upload. Shifting shit around on the cloud needs a bit of work both directions and short of buying what would be considered Business Grade in these parts - and the associated cost - I am left with this.
The plan has "boost" to 250/25 for 24 hour periods in case the boy needs to update some shit on his PS5, but mostly, that'll do, pig.
The other tiers were 500/50 which was great, but pricey at $130, and 250/25 which seemed a little weird in terms of upload. Really they should have offered both with 50MBps upload.
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I remark on internet things as I was on YouTube the other day and noted the presence of Star Link Roam - a version of the service designed for travellers in remote areas. Looks good despite the monthly $170ish cost. Chuck one of those in the back of the Xtrail and hit the road. While claimed speeds are lower than "fixed" Star Link, getting anywhere above 20mbps in the middle of nowhere would be worth it.
