Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion
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@Winger said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Gibbes would be an ok coach. But never a SRP winning coach. A bit like Colin Cooper.
We went from useless to winners with Boyd. Get the right head coach and we can do the same with this team
Agree on Laidlaw
Harsh comparison on Cooper, the era he was in conspired against him ever winning (Canes lack of a stand out 10) and he was a bit of fog away from actually winning. Cooper is leagues ahead of Gibbes as a coach.
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@Nepia devils advocate here...wouldn't finding or making a good 10 kind of be in a coaches remit?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Nepia devils advocate here...wouldn't finding or making a good 10 kind of be in a coaches remit?
I think things were a little bit different back then than now with selection. IIRC he tried to get a clearance for an in form Aussie playing in the NPC (who is now coach of the Magpies, so there's a chance I'll want him strung up by the end of the season) but was denied, whereas today your team can import a journeyman from the UK just for the Super comp.
As for making, the Canes were probably the second best NZ team in the time he coached them so he did some ok coaching to make Gopperth look a little bit competent.
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Bit of uncertainty over who is taking over. Really like to see Goodman at the Saders, Laidlaw would be an exciting addition to the Canes, probably more as a backs or attack coach than head coach. As for the Blues, Schmidt would have been ideal, sadly it is not meant to be.
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@SBW1 Laidlaw wouldn't be an assistant, he's already been there and done that.
The more I think about it, Laidlaw might actually be the perfect fit. If he can do well with the Under 20s I'm more than happy with him getting the gig.
He seems pretty switched on, has a diverse rugby coaching pedigree in 15s/7s, and he genuinely seems like a good bloke, someone you'd want to play for as a player.
That Scottish accent might be hard to unpick for some of the fellas though.
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@Canes4life I’m hoping it’ll be Laidlaw rather then Mooar or McLeod I don’t understand why the Canes want to look at these other two.
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Key point: Clark Laidlaw is suddenly a man in demand.
The New Zealand men’s sevens and national under-20s coach is locked in a tug-of-war between the Blues and the Hurricanes to secure his services to lead their Super Rugby teams from next season, the Herald understands.
Exclusive: Blues and Hurricanes in tug-of-war over top Kiwi head coach
One top coach has a choice to make between leading the Blues or Hurricanes.
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From that article:
The Hurricanes are believed to have considered former All Blacks attack coach Brad Mooar but ultimately settled on Laidlaw as their preferred candidate. The Blues — after being knocked back by former Chiefs and Wallabies coach Dave Rennie and All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt — are also understood to be keen on Laidlaw.
In the XVs space the Scotsman, who relocated to New Zealand 15 years ago, worked under Chris Boyd as the Hurricanes captured their sole Super Rugby title in 2015, and as an assistant at London Irish. The 45-year-old was previously approached by leading Irish clubs to join their coaching ranks, too, but preferred to bide his time with a view to landing a Super Rugby job.
Now that opportunity has arrived — it’s just a matter of whether it comes in Wellington or Auckland.Further south the Crusaders have locked in former All Blacks openside Matt Todd to fill Scott Hansen’s void as assistant coach and the six-time defending champions are gradually reaching the nitty gritty stage of their quest to replace Robertson.
While the Crusaders are up to two weeks away from anointing Robertson’s successor their next head coach is expected to emerge from a group comprising Vern Cotter, former All Blacks lock Ross Filipo and Rob Penney.
Vastly experienced coach Cotter has been in the Crusaders mix from the outset but the Herald understands Filipo, the Waikato head coach and Chiefs assistant, and Penney are now being strongly considered.The Crusaders are believed to be considering a two-year head coach appointment, before potentially promoting the highly-rated Tamati Ellison or pursuing former assistant Andrew Goodman who remains under contract at Irish club Leinster.
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Hurricanes won in 2016. Not 2015. We made the final in 2015 and were top qualifiers ...
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"Such a strategy may favour the experienced Penney or Cotter taking charge."
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@nostrildamus Penney didn't do to well when in charge of the Waratahs. He got sacked.
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@Duluth said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Why is Laidlaw suddenly rated highly? He doesn’t have much experience in XV’s
He would be a risk but as an assistant coach he was VG (better than Holland) at the canes.
I'm surprised the Blues can't find someone else that's linked to Blues rugby in some way. As Laidlaw is with the canesIt's a concern the lack of experienced quality coaches. Anyone promising is in demand. Including Laidlaw and Ellison
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@Winger said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I'm surprised the Blues can't find someone else that's linked to Blues rugby in some way
That's assuming the article is correct. I would like Pivac or Coventry.
Pivac was initially talked about as a possibility and I don't think he's taken another job yet. Also, these articles never mention Coventry.. promoting him to head coach seems like a very good choice right in front of their noses
