Chiefs v Reds
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Winger said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Stargazer said in Chiefs v Reds:
Wow, what a game.
Thought I heard him say advantage over.
I didn't hear him say but think it went enough phases. I don't think Thompson should have taken the risk of getting held up.
Good win to the Reds.
Finau in attack and Nankivall when he came on aside that was a pretty dud performance across the board. @antipodean's mate DMac had his worst match of the season. Ratima is physical but he lacks the clearance and decision making of Weber.
Ratima is good when he comes off the bench and has to fit the rhythm established by Weber. Left to set the rhythm he kills it instead. Too many other players then trying to make up for that split second with forced passes and poor decisions.
When will players learn that going for a close quarters try against a set close defence is very low percentage now? Dumb by Thompson and I feel he was trying to make amends for earlier errors.
As for the advantage. While I liked that as spectators we got to see ball in play rather than kick and drive, it also seemed that Williams painted himself into a corner by allowing too many side to side phases and felt he couldn’t go back to the offence. An offence than possibly took away a created opportunity. There was never any tactical or territorial advantage achieved from the play. The ball went sideways and backward and was always slow (which is the case when the offside line is the try line).
It would have been criticised if the penalty was called after 15 phases but it should also have never gone that far IMO. Tough one for the ref. Damned if you do….Great ticker shown by the Reds and deserved win against a slightly off Chiefs. Shows what value BBBR, Sami T and Cane bring to the team. That’s a fair bit of leadership and hardness missing and if this is an indication of next year then there’s plenty of work to do and shoes to fill.
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@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year. -
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.Could he still have a muscle imbalance from a previous injury?
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@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.He wasn't the only player to slip over - both Narawa and Finau lost their feet during crucial moments too when trying to change direction. I wonder if the turf was a bit loose?
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@mariner4life said in Chiefs v Reds:
2012 the Chiefs won super rugby
2013 @Nepia switched allegiance to the Chiefs
2013 fucking taranaki switch to the Chiefs
Since 2013 what have we won? Nothing
And we play in the shithole called NP and we lose to a terrible side in QldTaranaki is where football teams (and Nepia) goes to die
I love it that the splitters at Taranaki are the only province (I think) that have never been part of a SR title. Long may it continue
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Yes lots of foot slips in the match. Was quite costly for Chiefs. I doubt that Dmac changed his sprigs so more likely the pitch was more the issue.
Totally agree with the extra pressure going down the chain from delayed clearances. I kept thinking when is Cortez going to get his hands on the ball and distribute. He did not play badly but I think was the reason the attack could not flow. Our cleaning out at ruck was not as good as usual and will have contributed. And our most effective cleaner in Finau was sent to backfield too.
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@nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.Could he still have a muscle imbalance from a previous injury?
Could we be mate, never thought of that.
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@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.He wasn't the only player to slip over - both Narawa and Finau lost their feet during crucial moments too when trying to change direction. I wonder if the turf was a bit loose?
Well it artificial so not usual, could of been slippery, but think right boots saves a lot of it.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
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@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
There’s a lot of slipping going on in games at the moment. Grounds are getting skiddier as the season changes and players haven’t adjusted.
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@Crucial It just gives me the
blind screaming heebie jeebies to think of any of those three running the cutter against France or Ireland in a tight match where the stakes are all or nothing. Let's hope they all find a rich vein of form by then. -
@Dan54 A different time of the year to NPC, and not all games are played at night. It is noticeable that there is a heavy dew on the ground now, and grass length/quality will also be a factor. As you say, most backs probably use boots with moulded studs whereas the forwards don't.
