Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion
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@Crucial said in Crusaders v Force:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders v Force:
Still no names as yet for coaching replacements. Really hope Scott is having is choosing his successor.
That's funny considering the negativity that surrounds Hansen supporting Foster getting the AB gig.
Maybe let the management choose? That way there might be a bit of freshness come through.Yep not really Razors gig soon, so a management call is the way it should go.
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@Chris said in Crusaders v Force:
@Crucial said in Crusaders v Force:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders v Force:
Still no names as yet for coaching replacements. Really hope Scott is having is choosing his successor.
That's funny considering the negativity that surrounds Hansen supporting Foster getting the AB gig.
Maybe let the management choose? That way there might be a bit of freshness come through.Yep not really Razors gig soon, so a management call is the way it should go.
Ross Filipo & Joe Maddock returning to fill the 2 coaching vacancies.
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Chris said in Crusaders v Force:
@Crucial said in Crusaders v Force:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders v Force:
Still no names as yet for coaching replacements. Really hope Scott is having is choosing his successor.
That's funny considering the negativity that surrounds Hansen supporting Foster getting the AB gig.
Maybe let the management choose? That way there might be a bit of freshness come through.Yep not really Razors gig soon, so a management call is the way it should go.
Ross Filipo & Joe Maddock returning to fill the 2 coaching vacancies.
Ok news to me but we will see.
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I know nothing about Filipo as a Coach but Maddock makes me nervous.
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@kiwi_expat Wonder if Brad Thorn is in contention for an assistant role.
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@Stargazer said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@mikey07 Yeah, I think it's far more likely that he gets a gig in Japan or the MLR.
Or join the Wallabies staff. He hasn't been that successful, but Eddie loves old league players
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@SBW1 It's his 6th year in charge of the Reds.
As @Stargazer said, he'll probably end up in Japan or something.
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Joe Schmidt looks like he may return to Ireland.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/rugby-rumours-and-transfers-joe-schmidt-tolu-latu-john-dobson-and-much-more/ar-AA1aUmNl?ocid=hpmsn&pc=ACTE&cvid=779f623d6d9e41b7a57e4fc2b73fa0b6&ei=14 -
@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I know nothing about Filipo as a Coach but Maddock makes me nervous.
Maddock got some good reviews as attack coach at Bath.But was shit as HC for Canterbury he selected some real journeyman and we played shit while he was in charge.
Maybe as an assistant taking Scott Hansens role but not as HC that would not be a good choice. -
@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I know nothing about Filipo as a Coach but Maddock makes me nervous.
Maddock got some good reviews as attack coach at Bath.But was shit as HC for Canterbury he selected some real journeyman and we played shit while he was in charge.
Maybe as an assistant taking Scott Hansens role but not as HC that would not be a good choice.Joe Maddock was Canterbury's attack coach for 2015/16/17 - 3 titles in a row.
I think he's a pretty decent chance of assuming Scott Hansen's role next year.
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I know nothing about Filipo as a Coach but Maddock makes me nervous.
Maddock got some good reviews as attack coach at Bath.But was shit as HC for Canterbury he selected some real journeyman and we played shit while he was in charge.
Maybe as an assistant taking Scott Hansens role but not as HC that would not be a good choice.Joe Maddock was Canterbury's attack coach for 2015/16/17 - 3 titles in a row.
I think he's a pretty decent chance of assuming Scott Hansen's role next year.
Yep then he took over as HC in 2018/2019 and Canterbury went shit under him.
As I mentioned yeah attack coach but not HC .
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@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I know nothing about Filipo as a Coach but Maddock makes me nervous.
Maddock got some good reviews as attack coach at Bath.But was shit as HC for Canterbury he selected some real journeyman and we played shit while he was in charge.
Maybe as an assistant taking Scott Hansens role but not as HC that would not be a good choice.Joe Maddock was Canterbury's attack coach for 2015/16/17 - 3 titles in a row.
I think he's a pretty decent chance of assuming Scott Hansen's role next year.
Yep then he took over as HC in 2018/2019 and Canterbury went shit under him.
As I mentioned yeah attack coach but not HC .
Edit I also still hear Vern Cotton's name around the trap's as a HC option.
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@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Crazy-Horse said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
I know nothing about Filipo as a Coach but Maddock makes me nervous.
Maddock got some good reviews as attack coach at Bath.But was shit as HC for Canterbury he selected some real journeyman and we played shit while he was in charge.
Maybe as an assistant taking Scott Hansens role but not as HC that would not be a good choice.Joe Maddock was Canterbury's attack coach for 2015/16/17 - 3 titles in a row.
I think he's a pretty decent chance of assuming Scott Hansen's role next year.
Yep then he took over as HC in 2018/2019 and Canterbury went shit under him.
As I mentioned yeah attack coach but not HC .
He had poor assistant coaches, Reuben Thorne and Mark Brown, forwards & defense.
He made the final in his 1st year (2018) then a semi exit 2019. He had the attack humming in 2015, 16, 17, 18. Some of the highest +/- in Canterbury's history.
The attack and everything else fell apart once he left after 2019.
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@Chris, and he's already been a Crusaders assistant in 2017 so imagine he may very well be in the running.
"Unlike this year, when Maddock assisted Robertson with the Crusaders' defence and helped plan for opposition teams, Maddock will focus solely on Canterbury in his new role."
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@Chris, and he's already been a Crusaders assistant in 2017 so imagine he may very well be in the running.
"Unlike this year, when Maddock assisted Robertson with the Crusaders' defence and helped plan for opposition teams, Maddock will focus solely on Canterbury in his new role."
Maybe,it fits what they are looking for connections to the Crusaders and an understanding of the culture and systems is a big factor in who gets those jobs.
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Revealed: The contenders to coach Blues, Crusaders and Hurricanes in 2024
Inside the latest developments to the fast-moving Super Rugby coaching scenario.
In the latest developments to the fast-moving scenario, the Herald understands All Blacks defence coach Scott McLeod, former All Blacks attack coach Brad Mooar and long-serving New Zealand sevens coach Clark Laidlaw are the leading contenders to succeed Holland at the Hurricanes next year.
The Hurricanes are now on the hunt for two coaches following the surprise, internal news that respected forwards mentor Chris Gibbes, who was considered a strong option to replace Holland next year, will leave the franchise to take a break from the game.
The Blues are thought to be considering former New Zealand Māori captain Jono Gibbes after missing out on Dave Rennie and with their next target, All Blacks assistant Joe Schmidt, not interested in assuming another head coaching role after the World Cup.
Jono Gibbes has returned home after a six-year head coaching stint in the French Top 14 with La Rochelle and Clermont. He was abruptly sacked by Clermont in January as results deteriorated. Prior to that exit he led Irish club Ulster and Waikato but it’s his time as forwards coach with Leinster under Joe Schmidt that could prove enticing for the Blues.
While Schmidt has knocked back several head coaching inquiries due to his family commitments, and strained relationship with NZ Rugby, the vastly-experienced All Blacks assistant is believed to be open to a consultancy role next year. Attempting to revive Schmidt’s ties with Gibbes could, therefore, be the Blues’ next best option once MacDonald departs.
Vern Cotter also remains in the mix after stepping aside from leading Fiji earlier this year.
The final potentially complicating factor in the mix is the Reds targeting New Zealand coaches in their search to replace Brad Thorn for next season.
The Herald can reveal further, significant developments place the Crusaders in the throes of promoting former All Blacks openside Matt Todd to join their coaching team.
While Robertson’s replacement remains unresolved at this point, Todd’s return to the Crusaders, where he played 140 matches, is expected to complete the six-time defending champion’s assistants alongside Dan Perrin, Tamati Ellison and James Marshall for next year.
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