Force v Highlanders
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@Bones I really hope we dont have to suffer the ignominy of guys like Frizzell in the WC who are clearly past whatever sell-by date they had. Any opposition will just be salivating at the mere thought. That said I'm sure BB and Coles will be on that bus even though their time is also up.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Force v Highlanders:
That’s game legitimately made me wonder if I even like rugby any more
So many penalises, off side called every 3 or 4 rucks, cards firing around everywhere, players laying around in back play all the time
I know Im bias but fuck it, I think ppps and mmts cards were harsh, ppp falls across the line but the maul still forms, penalise if you have to but the game carried on
To me it looked like MMT just tackled a player breaking off the maul in an attempt to score, I don’t think he was part of the maul and so not sure how he could collapse it, maybe on re watch I’ll see what I’ve obviously missed
Burns was lively with ball in hand but damn the ball seemed it loose some psi every time we passed it too him because he can’t kick for shit, even sounded weird coming off his boot
We were shit, ref was shit rugby really can be shit
As a neutral I couldn't face watching much of the last half but
-the Force at least tried, they looked a better team on the day (with few if any stars)...
-the Highlander forwards are good (but the hooker looked out of shape and unhappy/troubled trying to keep up) and overall the team looked some kilos overweight-do they have a fitness expert?
-the Highlanders obv need better depth in distributors but this seems to me to be a nationwide problem.
-I'd take MMT over Frizell at higher honour level (just seems to have more initiative etc even if he didn't have a great game) but at super level SF seems to get more blame than his share, he's an ok Super Rugby player.
-Really like Harmon, I'm surprised the Crusaders let him go.
Edit: oh yeah when you said the kicking was shit you were overly positive! -
He's just building back into it after a long injury break so I will cut hom a little slack, but I don't think PPP has the "mongrel' to progress much further from here. I thought this before he got injured and nothing has changed my mind since his return.
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@Stargazer said in Force v Highlanders:
@SBW1 The Highlanders sit at 7th on the table, so they're still in a finals' position. Remember, the top 8 make it. Still a lot of round robin games to be played.
The competition really need to change the playoffs to top 4 or top 6. Top 8 just waters down this competition too much. Every team should earn the right to play playoff footy, right now the Highlanders aren't even close to looking like a playoff team even though the competition suggests they are.
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@Canes4life RA would never agree to it. Table tells you why. All these notions about 'earning the right' etc don't pay the bills.
What they actually need to do is figure out how to even the comp. If it was even (or more even) it might be possible to have a top 4 cut off.
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@Derpus said in Force v Highlanders:
@Canes4life RA would never agree to it. Table tells you why. All these notions about 'earning the right' etc don't pay the bills.
What they actually need to do is figure out how to even the comp. If it was even (or more even) it might be possible to have a top 4 cut off.
At least the 4th Vs 5th quarter should be a cracker, the others will be walk overs
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@Canes4life said in Force v Highlanders:
@Stargazer said in Force v Highlanders:
@SBW1 The Highlanders sit at 7th on the table, so they're still in a finals' position. Remember, the top 8 make it. Still a lot of round robin games to be played.
The competition really need to change the playoffs to top 4 or top 6. Top 8 just waters down this competition too much. Every team should earn the right to play playoff footy, right now the Highlanders aren't even close to looking like a playoff team even though the competition suggests they are.
cant argue with that, currently if we make it through we're just looking at another hiding...not exactly engaging
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@Kiwiwomble Heard JK talking about some kind of draft to help out struggling teams like the Landers. Obviously it won't happen this year. Surely something can be done to help them out.
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@SBW1 said in Force v Highlanders:
@Kiwiwomble Heard JK talking about some kind of draft to help out struggling teams like the Landers. Obviously it won't happen this year. Surely something can be done to help them out.
Nah no matter the comp, even with drafts, some teams struggle. Unless you are talking about transtasman drafts
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@Machpants No way all of the Aussie sides and the Drua have at least 5 Kiwi player per team on average.
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@Derpus said in Force v Highlanders:
@Canes4life RA would never agree to it. Table tells you why. All these notions about 'earning the right' etc don't pay the bills.
What they actually need to do is figure out how to even the comp. If it was even (or more even) it might be possible to have a top 4 cut off.
Diluting the competition by having 8 teams in the playoffs isn't exactly going to create hype and excitement though is it? Reducing the number of playoff teams to me is a no brainer. There is enough young talent running around throughout those Australian teams that they should be expecting at least 2 teams to be in that top 6 every year. (Brumbies being almost a given).
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@FakatavaAllBlack The same can be said of a number of players in all the Aussie teams except the Reds. You can attribute much of the Rebels success to NPC players in their ranks. Mataele would be useful at the Landers for sure. I would like to see him back at the Saders next year personally.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Force v Highlanders:
@SBW1 watching Mataele on the weekend it did make me ponder why is this guy who plays his Npc in the south island not at say the Highlanders instead all the way over at the Force
He moved to the Force after several years of knee injury after knee injury (and quite a bit of weight gain). Maybe that's the reason why the Highlanders didn't sign him? At the time, signing him must have been considered quite a risk.
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@SBW1 said in Force v Highlanders:
Surely something can be done to help them out.
It's rugby. A couple of years ago it was the chiefs, for close to a decade it was the blues.
We're all getting a bit too dramatic when a team has an off season, even though it's regular as clockwork.
No helping out needed, the pendulum will swing, right?
