"Players returning from overseas"

Stargazer

@MN5 Still has another year to go on his current contract with Clermont.

By the way, as he has now represented Tonga, he's no longer eligible for NZ and now counts towards the number of ineligible players that may be contracted by a franchise.

BerhamporeNinja

@family-man yes pls! and come back to the Canes!!

Stargazer

@BerhamporeNinja I saw plenty of talented young backs/wingers at the SR U20 competition. Why would you want a slowing, aging wing back (who turns 32 in a few months), if you can field and develop a young and fast one? I wouldn't want Ben Lam anywhere near the Canes as a player.

BerhamporeNinja

@Stargazer dont know about aging and slow surely he still has value id rather have him then the Bus. im all in for developing young backs but theres a gap between u20s and super rugby unless your on a Riley Higgins and Peter Lakai level

Dan54

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

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@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

Crazy Horse

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@SBW1 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

I guess that is at least some payment for the Saders sending ALB, McKenzie and Retallic to the Chiefs. About time the Chiefs started repaying the favour.

Crucial

@Crazy-Horse said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@SBW1 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

I guess that is at least some payment for the Saders sending ALB, McKenzie and Retallic to the Chiefs. About time the Chiefs started repaying the favour.

I really don't think that you think they 'sent' them north.

Neither 'LB' stayed. Anton leaving very early and Daniel was left out of the Saders when they should have selected him if they saw a future.
BBBR ran off to HB at 19 for a faster track.
DMac has also stated that he was very happy to move. He wasn't a local anyway and a combo of opportunity and a Hillary Scholarship at Waikato Uni pulled him away.

Tha Saders set up may be successful but it also isn't the right vehicle for some players

Crazy Horse

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@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@SBW1 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

I guess that is at least some payment for the Saders sending ALB, McKenzie and Retallic to the Chiefs. About time the Chiefs started repaying the favour.

I really don't think that you think they 'sent' them north.

And you would be correct 😀

Bovidae

The all-time try scorer for the Crusaders is from the Chiefs region - Caleb Ralph. And then there is Sevu Reece.

Dan54

@Crazy-Horse said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@SBW1 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

I guess that is at least some payment for the Saders sending ALB, McKenzie and Retallic to the Chiefs. About time the Chiefs started repaying the favour.

Yep, had more to do with too many 10s at Chiefs though, hell they even sending them to Japan!

Chris

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@SBW1 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@SBW1 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Dan54 Crusaders are likely to be looking for a new 10.

Yep well McMillan already sent them Kemara, he wanted to go to Chiefs and it was suggested as Crusaders were interested it be best he heads that way. Think Kaleb actually went to Japan as part of his Chief's contract.

McMillan sent Kemara to the Crusaders ?.
I think the Crusaders offered him a contract and he accepted ,All I heard in the media and other places was he was not going to turn down a Crusaders contract when offered.

You abviously haven't heard the young fella talk Chris, yes he was offered a contract at Crusdaers but he approached Clayton McMillan as he wanted to play for Chiefs, his area where he grown up and always supported them, he said look mate we loaded with 10s, so take Crusader's offer, also said he would get coaching etc down there. Both him and McMillan talked of it. I wish I could remember the rugby show where they were talking about it. Sometimes the Crusaders genuinely aren't player's first choice, and Chiefs have been first choice for a few players lately, and kind of good that kids remember where they from. They even talked at maybe having a look back at Chiefs in a few years.

No never heard that,I did see an interview with McMillan and he said they offered Kemara a WTG contract as they wanted to keep him.

And also a saw interview with Kemara who said he never wanted to turn down a Crusaders contract,
That he saw it as an opportunity to learn off Mounga in his last season and then a chance to push for the no.1 Spot at the Crusaders.

I never heard the McMillan sending Kemara to the Crusaders story.

I think it was on rugby nation or one of those programs, and he definitely said McMillan had suggested he go to Cruaders as there was no room at Chiefs (See Trask being sent to Japan) and with any kind of luck it may work out for a return.

This is one of interviewa I saw about same time:

However, with the Hamilton-based franchise committed to Kaleb Trask returning from Japan in 2024 and steering the ship, the Crusaders were offering something they could not – opportunities, and soon.

“I had a good chat with [chiefs coach] Clayton [McMillan] before I made my decision, and he sent me down with full respect. The Crusaders offered me this opportunity, and I was taking it with both hands,” Kemara said.

He was in Christchurch on Thursday alongside fellow new signing Pepesana Patafilo, a member of Wellington’s NPC winning side, touring the Rugby Park headquarters they will spend much of their time at in 2023.

“I was always stuck in my mind I was going to be a Chief. Obviously, that didn't pan out. To be able to come down here, obviously legends have played here, especially in the 10 jersey, you could go on about it. I'm just thankful to be here and learn off the guys that are going to be around me.”

Ok I had not seen that article.
Not a great choice of words from Kemara he sent me down doesn’t sound great from a Crusaders fan point of view.

Dan54

@Chris Yep mate and as I said I did see similar said on TV, and did think at time maybe making it clear he had been to MacMillan first etc wasn't the thing to say, especially when he indicated that with lick he maybe back to Chiefs someday. He actually played at Hamilton school with Hotham the 9 for Crusaders too didn't he?

By the way I wasn't taking anything away from Crusaders when I posted it at beginning, just amazed at how many 10s the Chiefs seem to have at maoment.

Chris

@Dan54 said in "Players returning from overseas":

@Chris Yep mate and as I said I did see similar said on TV, and did think at time maybe making it clear he had been to MacMillan first etc wasn't the thing to say, especially when he indicated that with lick he maybe back to Chiefs someday. He actually played at Hamilton school with Hotham the 9 for Crusaders too didn't he?

By the way I wasn't taking anything away from Crusaders when I posted it at beginning, just amazed at how many 10s the Chiefs seem to have at maoment.

Yep he did play school rugby with Hotham they are pretty good mates so I hear.