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    @Kruse These new law application guidelines come from SANZAAR, so the NH will be against it. 🙄

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    @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

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    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

    Nope they're just playing that way, possession based games.

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    @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

    Only the kick clocks, water boys, not to the same extent as SR. But last year's matches had on average 5 or 6 minutes more in play than RC, sadly it's the SH who are the turgid teams now

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    @Machpants and the irony is, it was still the NH teams and SA slowing shit down in the internationals last year.

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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Machpants and the irony is, it was still the NH teams and SA slowing shit down in the internationals last year.

    But not when they play each other, bizarre

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    I found the Oz games far less 'sped up' that the NZ ones.
    We had refs calling out 30 seconds for a scrum set only after the packs had fucked around getting assembled.

    I like the interpretation of 'ball out' at breakdowns though. Saw a number of steals from the back if the halfback was mucking around.

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    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I found the Oz games far less 'sped up' that the NZ ones.
    We had refs calling out 30 seconds for a scrum set only after the packs had fucked around getting assembled.

    I like the interpretation of 'ball out' at breakdowns though. Saw a number of steals from the back if the halfback was mucking around.

    Angus Gardner stopping the canes reds game for several minutes so a Reds player could change his boots on the field was ridiculous

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    @Winger said in Super Rugby 2023:

    Does anyone want to post a top NZ eligible team of R1. I will start by nominating DMac, Ratallick and Stevenson for the Chiefs

    But too tired now to watch games too closely

    Are Ian Foster in disguise? Failing that you have the makings of a referee with that sort of eyesight difficulty!

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    #493

    When were the Crusaders last this low?

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    I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

    Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

    It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

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    @Winger said in Super Rugby 2023:

    When were the Crusaders last this low?

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    It’s round one, FFS.

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    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

    Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

    It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

    I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

    Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

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    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

    Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

    It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

    I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

    Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

    Yeah that 20mins was very different from the other hour

    During the cards 3-14

    57-6 when it was 15 v 15

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    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Winger said in Super Rugby 2023:

    When were the Crusaders last this low?

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    It’s round one, FFS

    I know it is. But it's just a comment about how strong the Crusaders have been for so long. That's all.

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    @Winger I don’t think you can say they are weak(er) after one game. They often have slow starts and build into a season.

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    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I wonder if YC cards are going to be more costly with the quicker game? When cards first came in you were likely to concede ~14 points. However in recent years the defending teams have managed cards a lot better

    Take the Crusaders v Chiefs match, the score was 14-10 to the Chiefs when Blackadder got carded (terrible & risky technique). There were definitely 2 tries while he was off, possibly the Ratima try too? Either way just over 10mins later the score was 31-10

    It'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I think it's going to be harder to manage the 10mins because you have less ability to slow things down

    I hope that true, as the cards will go back to being a major incentive to not transgress. The more cynical sides will pay.

    Similar outcome in the Blues game, Highlanders only looked like scoring while we had cards, rest of the time they were locked out.

    So yellow/reds cards may be more influential during a game? I definitely do not like the thought of that.

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    Fun opening weekend.

    Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

    As good as the attack was across the weekend, the defence on the whole was horrific.

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    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby 2023:

    Clear that the teams have spent the last few months working on their offence only.

    Very much doubt that.

    Defences do take a little while to get to their best though. Training against yourself can only take you so far.

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