EPL 2022 / 2023
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
City in deep deep shitski with financial rules. Looks like it's been a long term systematic thing as opposed to just a simple breach.
Interesting few weeks ahead here.
What a surprise
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
City in deep deep shitski with financial rules. Looks like it's been a long term systematic thing as opposed to just a simple breach.
Interesting few weeks ahead here.
Something similar came up with UEFA a couple of years ago and they were given a 2 year ban - later overturned. Would expect this to fester for a quite a while.
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not sure which thread this is best suited, thats pretty impressive
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
City in deep deep shitski with financial rules. Looks like it's been a long term systematic thing as opposed to just a simple breach.
Interesting few weeks ahead here.
football's FFP rules are fucking bullshit anyway, designed to protect clubs that were good in the 90s from the "new rich"
Fair play has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
City in deep deep shitski with financial rules. Looks like it's been a long term systematic thing as opposed to just a simple breach.
Interesting few weeks ahead here.
was just reading about what might (probably not) happen, even 2 points per season would hand a couple of titles to liverpool and another to Man u
would be very strange for liverpool, one title during covid and then another couple retroactive
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@Kiwiwomble Isn't it only up to 2018? So Mourinho might get another league title?
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@KiwiPie the article i read on the BBC said the allegations were right back to when Man City was bought so like the 09/10 season
City have been charged with allegedly breaking financial rules over a nine-year period, between the 2009/10 and 2017/18 seasons. -
@Kiwiwomble The most surprising aspect is that the EPL has financial rules.
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@mariner4life said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
City in deep deep shitski with financial rules. Looks like it's been a long term systematic thing as opposed to just a simple breach.
Interesting few weeks ahead here.
football's FFP rules are fucking bullshit anyway, designed to protect clubs that were good in the 90s from the "new rich"
Fair play has absolutely nothing to do with it.
FFP is now being bypassed with these long contracts - expect that to be clamped down on soon. Not that it will make any difference.
Now that the EPL is basically buying up nearly all the good players in Europe as European clubs cannot compete in transfer fees or wages, it does look like a bubble that is waiting to burst. Forest have spent so much money and that can only be justified by remaining in the EPL long term - relegation could destroy them in any season. And players on long contracts who under-perform cannot be moved on as only other EPL clubs can afford their wages and they will have enough players on long contracts already. Bournemouth and Southampton have spent up in this window to gamble on staying up. And even if they do, next season they probably won't.
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@KiwiPie Yeah even clubs like Chelsea have mortgaged their futures by amortising long term Contracts.
FFP does affect the smaller clubs. Fulham have had their spending tightly curtailed. It is only at the end of this season that we will get relief from the big spend when we came up in 2018 -
Jesse Marsch is goneburger from Leeds so only Moyes of the bottom 6 started the season as manager. Add in sackings at Villa and Chelsea and it is business as usual in the premier league. He always seemed a bit batshit crazy/enthusiastic. I suspect he had a style of play he wanted to implement and when that wasn't bringing wins, he had nowhere else to go.
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Newcastle draws again. Only 1 loss but 11 draws out of 22 matches with 10 wins. 4th at present so fans are likely happy
This is turning out to be a strange year especially with Liverpool's decline. Chelsea's too but with new owners and manager it could have gone this way
Tottenham lost 4 -1 after a good win last game against Man City
Makes it interesting though
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
Jesse Marsch is goneburger from Leeds so only Moyes of the bottom 6 started the season as manager. Add in sackings at Villa and Chelsea and it is business as usual in the premier league. He always seemed a bit batshit crazy/enthusiastic. I suspect he had a style of play he wanted to implement and when that wasn't bringing wins, he had nowhere else to go.
I'm surprised Moyles has survived as long as he has. Next games Tottenham then Forest. 2 losses and surely he's gone.
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And now Nathan Jones is goneburger so that's 2 managers gone for Southampton and apparently they are interested in Marsch - bizarre.
Big game coming up on Wednesday. If Arsenal can beat City at home then it is a 6 point lead with a game in hand - lose and they are level on points with Arsenal still to visit City.
Newcastle are very well organised but without Bruno they don't have much creativity. Only 13 goals conceded all season which is very impressive.
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@KiwiPie Well Jones seems even more from another planet than Marsch so in terms of consistency it makes sense.
I think he (Jones) will have to step down a couple of Divisions to get another gig. He looked out of his depth in every way at Southampton. Seems he's only effective for Luton.
Southampton are doomed. Bournemouth too I reckon. Then it gets very interesting.
Everton or Leeds look like the favourites. The other team in dire form are Palace.
Dyche looks like a good appointment but Everton FFS - they are toxic to every manager's resume.
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@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
@KiwiPie Well Jones seems even more from another planet than Marsch so in terms of consistency it makes sense.
I think he (Jones) will have to step down a couple of Divisions to get another gig. He looked out of his depth in every way at Southampton. Seems he's only effective for Luton.
Southampton are doomed. Bournemouth too I reckon. Then it gets very interesting.
Everton or Leeds look like the favourites. The other team in dire form are Palace.
Dyche looks like a good appointment but Everton FFS - they are toxic to every manager's resume.
Jones was bizarre, just seems way too emotional and self-justifying for that level. Wonder if Luton will be singing "Nathan Jones, you've been gone too long"
I still don't think Southampton or Bournemouth are doomed. They both have some exciting new signings - that little winger for Southampton was causing panic for Wolves - and a couple of wins can change everything. Given the amount of money that all the clubs can spend, there are no weak teams any more.
Are Fulham safe yet?
Meanwhile in the only league that matters - one very dominant team will have to go into the play-offs. Both Notts and Wrexham on track for well over 100 points and 100 goals.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
Are Fulham safe yet?
No - but 35 points would have been enough in 12 of the last 22 campaigns and 7 of the last 10 so it would need a massive change in form (probably the worst ever - so Fulhamish) for us to go down.
I get what you mean about Southampton and Bournemouth, but their problem is the teams above them have all improved as well. Southampton need an inspired choice to repla=ce Jones - so not Marsch and Bournemouth should have kept O'Neil as interim Manager.
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:
Meanwhile in the only league that matters - one very dominant team will have to go into the play-offs. Both Notts and Wrexham on track for well over 100 points and 100 goals.
I see EFL are looking at changing the structure of the Divisions I reckon the current promotion relegation rules for League One i.e. Top two are automatically promoted; next four compete in play-offs, with the winner gaining the third promotion spot. The bottom four are relegated. should also apply to League 2 and National League.
There are plenty of teams in National League with the history, playing and financial strength and grounds to make any argument against this pretty specious IMO. Certainly a travesty if either you or Wrexham fail to get promoted this season.
