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    @mikedogz said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @sparky said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    Last time Eddie Jones was appointed Wallabies coach Iphones, Youtube, Twitter and Facebook did not exist and even harder to imagine Australia actually held the Bledisloe Cup.

    Never forget it Ferners…

    582a46a4-519c-4220-81f5-ef8f63a29e5b-image.jpeg

    Isn't that the Tri Nations trophy?

    Was about to post that. The clue being "TRI NATIONS" engraved on the side.

    Maybe that was @ACT-Crusader 's point, that we no longer care enough to care what the Bledisloe looks like anymore. It's 1979 all over again.

    (I fully expect to have #booboo'ed.)

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    @sparky said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @NTA Childish moment from Gregan. They went lost to England the next week anyway so wippie-do.

    Nah. That was a good sledge. No swearing, no personal abuse and 100% correct. See how it still upsets us.

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    @Nevorian said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Bones said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    Fucken RA say hold my beer to NZR!

    Is there a longer coaching contract out there at the moment? Outstanding to sign a coach who the world has figured out is two seasons tops to a contract like that... when you already have a coach!

    My only fear now is just what lengths Robinson is going to go to, to devise the reinstatement of his incompetence crown.

    They figure two seasons would be enough to win Bledisloe and Bill. I think Wallabies will get a spike in their performance in that time, hopefully not at our expense

    Dead cat bounce?

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    Not sure if it’s been mentioned in amongst the where will Rennie end up discussion, but

    Rugby Australia has ensured that Rennie cannot coach elsewhere. His contract will be paid out but he will be on “gardening leave” for the remainder of the year.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    Not sure if it’s been mentioned in amongst the where will Rennie end up discussion, but

    Rugby Australia has ensured that Rennie cannot coach elsewhere. His contract will be paid out but he will be on “gardening leave” for the remainder of the year.

    Why do that?! Afraid of team secrets leaking? Seems nasty to me.

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    @nostrildamus I think if it was a non-RWC year they may have waived that but to me it’s not about being nasty but more a face saving exercise by RA.

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    @ACT-Crusader if that is indeed true, then it raises two issues:

    1. Rennie should get a better lawyer.
    2. That's remarkably petty from RA. A new coach is going to change things anyway.
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    @ACT-Crusader In the Sydney Morning Herald it's worded this way:

    Dave Rennie, who will be precluded from coaching another team or country this year.

    I kind of understand the other "country" thing in a RWC year, although, what harm could it possibly do to the Wallabies, if Rennie was offered the Head Coach position of - say - the USA, who won't be playing at the RWC? And not allowing him to coach "another team"? If that means a club team, I really don't understand why.

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    England should have done the same for Jones, or did they not pay out the remainder of his contract?

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    @Bovidae said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    England should have done the same for Jones, or did they not pay out the remainder of his contract?

    I’m not sure but I think I saw it reported that Eddie’s contract was paid out. Either way it goes against the grain to sack a bloke and then restrict his career, whatever the payout.

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    @Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?

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    @Catogrande said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Bovidae said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    England should have done the same for Jones, or did they not pay out the remainder of his contract?

    I’m not sure but I think I saw it reported that Eddie’s contract was paid out. Either way it goes against the grain to sack a bloke and then restrict his career, whatever the payout.

    I agree, but it would have been funny and just highlights the pettiness and hypocrisy from RA.

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    @Bovidae said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Catogrande said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Bovidae said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    England should have done the same for Jones, or did they not pay out the remainder of his contract?

    I’m not sure but I think I saw it reported that Eddie’s contract was paid out. Either way it goes against the grain to sack a bloke and then restrict his career, whatever the payout.

    I agree, but it would have been funny and just highlights the pettiness and hypocrisy from RA.

    Yeah, they’re not highlighting the benefits of working for them are they? Employer of the year 🙄

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    @nostrildamus said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Dan54 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Stargazer said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Dan54 Didn't Deans "get another gig", or didn't he "go for another (international) gig"? Did he even apply?

    Yep well apart from Eddie, I don't know any coaches that have reapplied after getting fired from test rugby. But you right he never tried, that I know of.

    John Mitchell went on to coach the mighty Eagles.

    Yep fair enough Nost, I also think that Cheika was kind of let go from Wallabies and doing Pumas now too, so perhaps I needed to think a bit more.Lol

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    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?

    Are they enforceable in Australia?

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    @Kirwan said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?

    Are they enforceable in Australia?

    Googled it;

    "Restriction of trade clauses are enforceable up to a certain extent. In order for them to be enforced, they must protect the employer’s legitimate business interest (i.e. a trade secret) or the reputation of the business."

    I guess player details and team tactics could be seen as trade secrets, but seems a stretch to me. Lawyer up Rennie and hit the gym.

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    @Kirwan @taniwharugby

    I’d think that it would go further than just a restriction on earning a living. What about future career prospects? Would age be taken into account? The effects on career prospects would be very different for a bloke in his 40s to someone in his late 50s/early 60s, no?

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    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?

    If he's being paid through to the end of the contract then maybe his is still actually contracted, just with a change of duties to 'sweet f a'. That way they control him.

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    @Crucial said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?

    If he's being paid through to the end of the contract then maybe his is still actually contracted, just with a change of duties to 'sweet f a'. That way they control him.

    In either case it's very petty, and considering the changes likely to be made by Mr Maths, completely pointless.

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    @Kirwan said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Crucial said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:

    @Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?

    If he's being paid through to the end of the contract then maybe his is still actually contracted, just with a change of duties to 'sweet f a'. That way they control him.

    In either case it's very petty, and considering the changes likely to be made by Mr Maths, completely pointless.

    For all we know it was a negotiated out. Remember that he has a family with him and maybe this situation suits them. They have time together and can plan a relocation in their own time.

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