Exodus
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RTS has done just fine. Considering he missed a bit of time with injury and the lack of a development plan for him / or a decent plan. He definitely belongs in SR, wait and see for the next level.
At what point do the ABs have their hand forced to open it up worldwide? They can only lose so much talent before they have to follow suit like the Boks and Wallabies.
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@margin_walker said in Exodus:
Anyone know anything about Chandler Cunningham-South? Back row, played a bit of North Harbour and Canterbury age grade apparently. Signed an academy contract with London Irish a few weeks ago.
He's straight into the England U20s team (at 6) for their 6N game against Wales tomorrow.
Not really but he was in the Canterbury Under 19s last season out of Lincoln University RFC
https://www.canterburyrugby.co.nz/newsarticle/106283?newsfeedId=1043163
and think he might have originated from Hamilton BHS (a bit of a longshot on this). With a name like he has got it sort of indicates he must have at least one pommie parent/grandparent for him to walk into the RFUs Under 20s.He's making an impression. Has been getting plenty of Prem and Champions Cup gametime off the bench. Got on the end of a try here to clinch a big win against Saracens a few days ago. Still just 19, so expect to see a fair bit more of him in future
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RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
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@TJ Really presents a great opportunity for our youth to step up in the next Super rugby season. Although there was no Under 20s World Cup this year, we had a pretty descent crop coming out in the Oceana tournament as well as Hamilton B.H.S securing the world school tournament and the successful Under 19 tour of South Africa. At least this year's NPC wasn't disrupted by Covert like last year.
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RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.Yeah Cane has signed through to 2025, He may struggle to hold down an AB spot by the time 2024 comes around.
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RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.Yeah Cane has signed through to 2025, He may struggle to hold down an AB spot by the time 2024 comes around.
Agree, I think the same of Taylor, but great for NZ rugby to have players of their experience around for a bit longer.
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Auckland prop Charles (Charlie) Abel has signed with Chicago Hounds in the MLR.
Hounds Agree to Terms with Pair of Forwards - Chicago Hounds
CHICAGO, I.L.- The Chicago Hounds announced today a pair of transactions the club made in build up to the 2023 Major League Rugby season. Chicago signed prop Charlie Abel and lock Sam Peri. Both players were drafted by the franchise in Major League Rugby’s dispersal draft held earlier this year....
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@Stargazer Can't recall Charlie Abel so a bit of a dig around found the following. A total of two appearances off the bench for Auckland as an injury replacement to the squad in 2022 against the powerhouses of Manawatu and Southland plus one solitary appearance in Super Rugby for what appears to be the Melbourne Rebels.
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3 more departures to the Houston Sable Cats
Speed and power added to the backs! We are excited to add: Fullback Drew Wild and Wing Vereniki Tikoisolomone.Vereniki Tikoisolomone, 24, has represented the NZ Barbarians as well as playing for the Taranakin Bulls in NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby
Wild, 22, joins the ‘Cats after spending the last few years playing for Manawatu in the NPC. He had 10 starts in 2022 and scored three tries.
Let’s GO 🤘
#MLR2023 #BigCatEnergy #HoustonSaberCats
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In addition to Manawatū fullback Drew Wild and Taranaki wing Vereniki Tikoisolomone, also signed with the Houston Sabercats are props Morgan Mitchell (Southland), Rob Cobb (Waikato) and Fatongia Paea (North Harbour).
https://www.houstonsabercats.com/news/sabercats-sign-3-props/
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Former Harbour centre Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u (Marino's twin brother) has signed with Japanese club Kurita Watergush Akishima.
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Nothing more than a rumour at this stage, but according to l'Equipe, Brad Weber will join Stade Français after the RWC.
Transferts : Le All Black Brad Weber attendu au Stade Français après la Coupe du monde
Selon nos informations, le demi de mêlée international néo-zélandais Brad Weber a donné son accord au Stade Français pour la saison prochaine.
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Also interesting (although not strictly NZ) according to Christie Doran (usually fairly correct) , Dave Rennie off to Japan to coach Kobe Steelers after WC. He seems to of made statement lat year he was getting his future sorted out by early this year.
(lol as an aside of course like in NZ it starts all the incompetetence of RA etc etc comments)
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@Dan54 imo deans international record is decent. Japan league is hard to guage as the clubs have very differing levels of professionalism amongst the locals.
He consistently took nz on at their peak and the wallabies were very competitive.
Aussie just simply doesn't have a lot of depth, they punch above their weight due to great weather developing good backs and alot of pacific genetics.
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@muddyriver fair enough just my thoughts , I was in Aus when they took him on and expressed same opinion before he started, he bloody good coach at super level, but even up until then had not very good reviews with his time with ABs as assistant coach. Even Dan Carter always said he seemed to struggle with players who weren't learners, ie has experience etc, and he was reasonably matey with Deans. I know I heard a few players speak of it, he struggled to communicate etc, and didn't like players having opinions maybe.
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Finally, the official announcement of Kianu Kereru-Symes joining NE Free Jacks.
Free Jacks Sign Hawke's Bay Hooker Kianu Kereru-SYMES - New England Free Jacks
Quincy, MA — January 9, 2023 — The New England Free Jacks are excited to announce the signing of Hawke’s Bay hooker Kianu Kereru-Symes. Hailing from Māhia, New Zealand, Kereru-Symes […]
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Former North Otago and Otago flanker Charles Elton has signed with Seattle Seawolves.
Charles Elton Signed for Back Row - Seattle Seawolves Rugby
Charles Elton, a highly skilled New Zealand defender, has signed on for his first MLR season with the Seawolves for 2023. Most recently he played in Sydney, Australia where he was the Eastern Suburbs RUFC’s 2022 Defender of the Year. In high school, he played for the New Zealand Secondary Schools...
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This one might have even Ken Laban scratching for details but if you are reading this Ken I can't help you with his school (other than it was somewhere in the Auckland region) but whilst he was playing for Otago B for five years he was from the Harbour Club after having previously spent a year at Dunedin's Southern Club playing Colts rugby
Forward making most of chance
Charles Elton winces a little when you ask him about playing lock. The 26-year-old hates the utility tag even more. The North Otago and Harbour...
Charlie Abel All Appearances | Rugby Database
