NZ v Pakistan 2022/23
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Woohoo. Awesome effort to pick up 2
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@canefan said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
Better from Bracewell he should always play his shots that is his cricket DNA,not grafting.
That knock should give him confidence going forward. He really has to work for that
Yep was good to see
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
That is better Bracewell be positive.
Geez Chris you knew he was going to have his one decent score after you and Damo bagged him, the buggers do that just to give us the finger I thing. He will revert to usual in future no doubt, though doubt he will get another test this summer, haven't we only got Poms at home? More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
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@ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:
Woohoo. Awesome effort to pick up 2
I went to bed at this point:
@booboo said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
Blundel maybe done a groin he won’t be Keeping tomorrow if he has.
And batting all he can do is stand and deliver.Two other keepers in the team.
You're welcome.
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@Dan54 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
That is better Bracewell be positive.
Geez Chris you knew he was going to have his one decent score after you and Damo bagged him, the buggers do that just to give us the finger I thing. He will revert to usual in future no doubt, though doubt he will get another test this summer, haven't we only got Poms at home? More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
I will leave it to the cricket men to advise me on expected line ups on home pitch.I gave constructive criticism.
I don't see a place at home for a marginal spinning all rounder in the test team. If I did see room then it wouldn't be Bracewell.
I would go with Sodhi and stick with him through thick and thin for a couple of seasons. To me he looks the best spinner by some distance, and we know he can hold a bat.
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@Dan54 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
That is better Bracewell be positive.
Geez Chris you knew he was going to have his one decent score after you and Damo bagged him, the buggers do that just to give us the finger I thing. He will revert to usual in future no doubt, though doubt he will get another test this summer, haven't we only got Poms at home? More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
I will leave it to the cricket men to advise me on expected line ups on home pitch.2 tests v poms and 2 tests v Sri Lankan at home .
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
The last few years we have played 4 quicks because we are producing pitches that seam heaps but don't take spin even on the last day.
So unless we find an allrounder Bat/spin option to bat 5 or 6 we may revert back to the 4 seamers.
I understand why we do prepare pitches like that,But it means we aren't producing any real world class spinners,Which considering of the 9 major test playing nations 4 of them are from the sub continent where you need a couple of decent spinners.We are going to be touring there more and more.
Even now producing the wickets we do at home there is a possibility we don't get results if teams get through day 1 as the pitches latter even out to be roads on day 4 and 5 after the moisture we put in the pitch has gone.
Sub continent pitches see little water in preparation so they are Roads early then break up or stay low at the end of the test.
But while we don't have World class spinners we will keep producing the seaming pitches as we want to win at home.But as I said earlier we might get more draws if teams are not rolled on day 1. -
It's going to be a very interesting selection at home.
NZ have, effectively, lost all of their old ball bowlers that have made them dominant at home in the era since 2014. CdG, Wagner, Jamieson, Santner.
There are several permutations that can try to plug that gap:
- Proper spinner or spinner/allrounder
- a new seam bowling all rounder
- a new old ball seamer
But, we are effectively talking new guys, or imperfect fits, to fill the hardest roles in cricket. The socials will be ablaze this summer as new players get ripped apart by fans' 'hot takes'.
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
More back to our usual line up of 3-4 seamers and maybe a spinner who can bat?
The last few years we have played 4 quicks because we are producing pitches that seam heaps but don't take spin even on the last day.
So unless we find an allrounder Bat/spin option to bat 5 or 6 we may revert back to the 4 seamers.
I understand why we do prepare pitches like that,But it means we aren't producing any real world class spinners,Which considering of the 9 major test playing nations 4 of them are from the sub continent where you need a couple of decent spinners.We are going to be touring there more and more.
Even now producing the wickets we do at home there is a possibility we don't get results if teams get through day 1 as the pitches latter even out to be roads on day 4 and 5 after the moisture we put in the pitch has gone.
Sub continent pitches see little water in preparation so they are Roads early then break up or stay low at the end of the test.
But while we don't have World class spinners we will keep producing the seaming pitches as we want to win at home.But as I said earlier we might get more draws if teams are not rolled on day 1.By this are you talking Murali/Warne or Vettori class ? I suspect you mean the latter. Hoping for the former is absolutely dreaming, but even the latter looks a forlorn hope with what we’ve tried and discarded.
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@Rapido said in NZ v Pakistan:
It's going to be a very interesting selection at home.
NZ have, effectively, lost all of their old ball bowlers that have made them dominant at home in the era since 2014. CdG, Wagner, Jamieson, Santner.
There are several permutations that can try to plug that gap:
- Proper spinner or spinner/allrounder
- a new seam bowling all rounder
- a new old ball seamer
But, we are effectively talking new guys, or imperfect fits, to fill the hardest roles in cricket. The socials will be ablaze this summer as new players get ripped apart by fans' 'hot takes'.
I’m assuming this a typo ?
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@MajorRage said in NZ v Pakistan:
Test peters out to draw around 175-5.
gee that'll bring the crowds back
