Guitarists
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@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.
Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.
Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.
You’re right but then again you’re wrong. True he’s not done anything for ages that added to his legend status, but that is a truism that runs all through this thread. As they age their guitar god status declines with their ability to rock.
Hendrix is a notable exception but then again he’s done fuck all for 50 odd years.
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@Catogrande said in Guitarists:
@MN5 said in Guitarists:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:
@Crucial said in Guitarists:
Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.
Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.
Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.
I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.
Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.
Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.
You’re right but then again you’re wrong. True he’s not done anything for ages that added to his legend status, but that is a truism that runs all through this thread. As they age their guitar god status declines with their ability to rock.
Hendrix is a notable exception but then again he’s done fuck all for 50 odd years.
Still about as lively as Clapton during that period
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@Catogrande said in Guitarists:
You are judging harshly today. Getting a bit Grinchy cos it’s nearly Christmas?
No I’ve been extremely positive about others. You should see my other lists. Full of praise for some absolute legends.
I’ve said some nice things about Eric too.
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@MajorRage said in Guitarists:
Been thinking about my top 10 Guitarists this morning & I struggle to make the proper distinction between Guitarists, Musician & Music. This list is completely different to what I would have put down two years ago when I bought my Gibson and started learning to play properly. First names on it prior would have been Slash / Young, but now ... not quite.
Main reason is that I am simply not a "shredder" - it's cool when you get it, but I much prefer making / matching the melodic tones of more contemporary musicians & heavy riffing. So here is my shitty list, which is not in order.
- James Hetfield. As I said above, I struggle with the distinction as I know he's not the best guitarist, but he's a phenomenal player of what he does. Down picking riffs basically. Love it.
- David Gilmour. As MN5 says, nobody does more with less. HIs ability to make a guitar talk is unmatched by anybody
- Jerry Cantrell. Awesome combination of the two above but not as good as both at their particular crafts. But still, the main guy of one of my fave bands, so has to be on this list
- Keith Richards. The epitome of cool. I don't really get a lot of blues stuff, it's not natural to me. But the way he plays the guitar, playing short melodic riffs / licks is perhaps the guitarist that Im most inspired to be.
- Dave Matthews. Controversial this, but as I said it's my list. Similar to Richards, his ability to play a song without playing it, is just amazing. Saw him do a solo gig in London in 2002, still think its' one of the best things I've ever seen. All along the watchtower incredible.
- Slash. He's still on the list. He chooses melody over speed and it all sounds much the better for it.
- Frusciante. There is so much he's written / arranged that I can't play. He's just too farking good. A lot of people (mainly hipsters, honestly)will always claim the earlier RHCP stuff was better, but I don't agree. It all got a bit indulgent on Stadium Arcadium, but the Frusciante albums (Mothers Milk, BSSM, Californaition, By the Way) do define a lot of my teens / twenties.
- Hendrix. Because if he's not on the list it can't really be taken seriously, can it?
Thats kind of where it ends for me. I would then tack an honourable mention on this of Page (brilliant & phenomenal, but I get bored of Led Zepp), Angus Young (best live guitarist I've seen, no question, but I think I just love the music more than I love him as a guitarist), Townshend (similar to Young).
What is most amazing to me is that given that I'm a guitar guy, only one of the guitarists in my favourite bands of the last 20 odd years are on this list. Tool (it's their rhythm section that makes them), Foo's (great tracks, but hardly guitar genius), FNM (Gould is on bass list for sure) don't feature.
Like MN5, I reserve the right to revisit this list and wonder what the fuck I was thinking.
How in fucks name did I forget Lindsey Buckingham …
That’s my number 9.
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@MajorRage said in Guitarists:
@MajorRage said in Guitarists:
Been thinking about my top 10 Guitarists this morning & I struggle to make the proper distinction between Guitarists, Musician & Music. This list is completely different to what I would have put down two years ago when I bought my Gibson and started learning to play properly. First names on it prior would have been Slash / Young, but now ... not quite.
Main reason is that I am simply not a "shredder" - it's cool when you get it, but I much prefer making / matching the melodic tones of more contemporary musicians & heavy riffing. So here is my shitty list, which is not in order.
- James Hetfield. As I said above, I struggle with the distinction as I know he's not the best guitarist, but he's a phenomenal player of what he does. Down picking riffs basically. Love it.
- David Gilmour. As MN5 says, nobody does more with less. HIs ability to make a guitar talk is unmatched by anybody
- Jerry Cantrell. Awesome combination of the two above but not as good as both at their particular crafts. But still, the main guy of one of my fave bands, so has to be on this list
- Keith Richards. The epitome of cool. I don't really get a lot of blues stuff, it's not natural to me. But the way he plays the guitar, playing short melodic riffs / licks is perhaps the guitarist that Im most inspired to be.
- Dave Matthews. Controversial this, but as I said it's my list. Similar to Richards, his ability to play a song without playing it, is just amazing. Saw him do a solo gig in London in 2002, still think its' one of the best things I've ever seen. All along the watchtower incredible.
- Slash. He's still on the list. He chooses melody over speed and it all sounds much the better for it.
- Frusciante. There is so much he's written / arranged that I can't play. He's just too farking good. A lot of people (mainly hipsters, honestly)will always claim the earlier RHCP stuff was better, but I don't agree. It all got a bit indulgent on Stadium Arcadium, but the Frusciante albums (Mothers Milk, BSSM, Californaition, By the Way) do define a lot of my teens / twenties.
- Hendrix. Because if he's not on the list it can't really be taken seriously, can it?
Thats kind of where it ends for me. I would then tack an honourable mention on this of Page (brilliant & phenomenal, but I get bored of Led Zepp), Angus Young (best live guitarist I've seen, no question, but I think I just love the music more than I love him as a guitarist), Townshend (similar to Young).
What is most amazing to me is that given that I'm a guitar guy, only one of the guitarists in my favourite bands of the last 20 odd years are on this list. Tool (it's their rhythm section that makes them), Foo's (great tracks, but hardly guitar genius), FNM (Gould is on bass list for sure) don't feature.
Like MN5, I reserve the right to revisit this list and wonder what the fuck I was thinking.
How in fucks name did I forget Lindsey Buckingham …
That’s my number 9.
He was the only part of Fleetwood Mac I ever liked. Really nice style.
I’m gonna learn this over the xmas break, once I get over an acoustic guitar feeling like a toy after playing bass for so long that is !
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@MajorRage said in Guitarists:
@MajorRage said in Guitarists:
Been thinking about my top 10 Guitarists this morning & I struggle to make the proper distinction between Guitarists, Musician & Music. This list is completely different to what I would have put down two years ago when I bought my Gibson and started learning to play properly. First names on it prior would have been Slash / Young, but now ... not quite.
Main reason is that I am simply not a "shredder" - it's cool when you get it, but I much prefer making / matching the melodic tones of more contemporary musicians & heavy riffing. So here is my shitty list, which is not in order.
- James Hetfield. As I said above, I struggle with the distinction as I know he's not the best guitarist, but he's a phenomenal player of what he does. Down picking riffs basically. Love it.
- David Gilmour. As MN5 says, nobody does more with less. HIs ability to make a guitar talk is unmatched by anybody
- Jerry Cantrell. Awesome combination of the two above but not as good as both at their particular crafts. But still, the main guy of one of my fave bands, so has to be on this list
- Keith Richards. The epitome of cool. I don't really get a lot of blues stuff, it's not natural to me. But the way he plays the guitar, playing short melodic riffs / licks is perhaps the guitarist that Im most inspired to be.
- Dave Matthews. Controversial this, but as I said it's my list. Similar to Richards, his ability to play a song without playing it, is just amazing. Saw him do a solo gig in London in 2002, still think its' one of the best things I've ever seen. All along the watchtower incredible.
- Slash. He's still on the list. He chooses melody over speed and it all sounds much the better for it.
- Frusciante. There is so much he's written / arranged that I can't play. He's just too farking good. A lot of people (mainly hipsters, honestly)will always claim the earlier RHCP stuff was better, but I don't agree. It all got a bit indulgent on Stadium Arcadium, but the Frusciante albums (Mothers Milk, BSSM, Californaition, By the Way) do define a lot of my teens / twenties.
- Hendrix. Because if he's not on the list it can't really be taken seriously, can it?
Thats kind of where it ends for me. I would then tack an honourable mention on this of Page (brilliant & phenomenal, but I get bored of Led Zepp), Angus Young (best live guitarist I've seen, no question, but I think I just love the music more than I love him as a guitarist), Townshend (similar to Young).
What is most amazing to me is that given that I'm a guitar guy, only one of the guitarists in my favourite bands of the last 20 odd years are on this list. Tool (it's their rhythm section that makes them), Foo's (great tracks, but hardly guitar genius), FNM (Gould is on bass list for sure) don't feature.
Like MN5, I reserve the right to revisit this list and wonder what the fuck I was thinking.
How in fucks name did I forget Lindsey Buckingham …
That’s my number 9.
How in fucks name did I forget Zakk Wylde ...
Core architect of the 90's metal lead guitarist.
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Anyone mentioned Billy TK Snr?
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James Hetfield drives the best hard rock band of all time
Kirk Hammett plays lead and shreds most of the best solos ever recorded.
Pinnacle
And the guy the kicked out is a fucking insane player too.
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@mariner4life said in Guitarists:
James Hetfield drives the best hard rock band of all time
Kirk Hammett plays lead and shreds most of the best solos ever recorded.
Pinnacle
And the guy the kicked out is a fucking insane player too.
For some reason Metallica attract Nickelback like hate online which is ridiculous.
Sure “Whisky in the Jar” is pretty shit…..and “Nothing else matters” is sappy crap you can learn on the guitar in five minutes. I really don’t like that song……
But the flipside of that is they’ve done banger after banger after banger.
Hard, heavy, mainstream and massively popular. It’s a formula they’ve made work better than anyone.
Cool guys too, even Lars when he’s not being a dick.
Trujillo would be the best muso of that bunch overall even if he doesn’t show it so much in the band.
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Just been watching a recording of Sounds of the Sixties (BBC) and they had Jimi and his boys on. Just them in a live TV studio and they did an improv Hey Joe, interspersed with guitar licks from the Beatles, then a version of the Cream hit Sunshine of your love and they did it better than Cream. Rather cruelly it was followed by a live version from Cream. Great but nowhere near really.
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@Catogrande said in Guitarists:
Just been watching a recording of Sounds of the Sixties (BBC) and they had Jimi and his boys on. Just them in a live TV studio and they did an improv Hey Joe, interspersed with guitar licks from the Beatles, then a version of the Cream hit Sunshine of your love and they did it better than Cream. Rather cruelly it was followed by a live version from Cream. Great but nowhere near really.
Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were a terrific rhythm section. Very unheralded…..and sadly none other of them are with us any more.
As a power trio they blew Cream out of the water in my opinion ( well, Baker was probably a better drummer but still )
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Possibly an unpopular opinion…..but I can’t stand Tom Morellos lead playing.
All that screechy feedback effects laden shit does my head in.
Feels weird saying that considering I love the groups he is in and the riffs he has written…..
Some groups you look forward to the guitar leads.
His ones are the opposite.