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    Well my team guess wasn't too far away in the starting line up, only Telea leapfrogging Reece, was missed. My bench guess was off though. Im not sure what they are thinking about impact in the backs? Curiously is Reece is injured, just seems weird to have both DH and ALB there on the bench, one I can understand both suggest maybe injuries in squad?

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    the bench selection really is quite weird. There are at least two guys there who are old fashioned reserves.

    Start up front, to bring the 6 on, in all likelihood it results in the blindside moving to lock.
    If Sotutu comes on, it's probably for DP, which means Savea moves to 7

    In the backs:
    If Mounga is having a stinker and you want to tow him, you have to move your 15 to 10, your 12 to 15, and bring on a midfielder.
    If a winger goes down you have to move your centre.

    I absolutely fucking hate having to make 2 or more changes to swap one player. "Positionless" rugby has been tried a few times and it fucking doesn't work because rugby teams are about guys in certain positions doing certain jobs. And it's very very difficult, even for elite players, to swap roles mid-game, especially under the fatigue of a high-intensity test match.

    My only quibbles in the run-on side is i would have started Sami T (but i can see the logic in bringing him in later) and i still believe we are turning our current form lock around the track into an adequate blindside.

    I still think we'll win though, the above are minor quibbles. And just another case of "that's not how i would do it so you suck" which infests this place.

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v England:

    Cant see the point of Sotutu as a bench option, unless it is to confuse England, and / or give all the squad a run. Would rather have had Harmon, - think this type of brutal forward-oriented game would really suit him,

    I think he's pure injury cover. They expect Ardie to play 80mins as he always does, and if he gets injured it's a like for like with Hoskins. If Paps goes down, Ardie shifts to 7 and Hoskins to 8.

    It's a little luxury of having Ardies massive motor that we can afford to have a specialist 8 on the bench.

    Also offers lineout change up.

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    @mariner4life I can see impact in our bench forwards and halfback and then as you mention it looks confused.

    Im not so sure if we win well, but looking forward to this. The majority of that forward pack will have 2019 on their mind, that in itself should make for a great contest. I hope we win, but I think this will be close either way, I don't think England's recent performances matter, they will be just as much up for this as we are.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

    While what you are saying is right in real terms, my point is that when Fakatava got injured it was Weber who was the next cab off the rank.
    Its Foster in a nutshell. Sowakula, Perofeta, Weber , Ennor, Tuipolutu, Jacobsen. Leicester
    Some players do the Hokey Cokey in and out of squads.
    It must kill their confidence.

    It's Foster and his staff's job to select the best players for a particular Test from what's available to him. It doesn't really matter about positions in cab ranks and I'm really liking how Foster is working and co-ordinating with Leon McDonald.

    It's bloody great giving potential AB's and/or who haven't quite made the step-up to Test level an opportunity to develop in an AB XV with experienced players like TJP. Better than being thrown on he scrapheap as has happened in the past. Allows a larger pool of players to be developed and players like DMac and TJP to get back into contention.

    EDIT: Also allows potential AB Assistant Coaches to develop as well.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    the bench selection really is quite weird. There are at least two guys there who are old fashioned reserves.

    Start up front, to bring the 6 on, in all likelihood it results in the blindside moving to lock.
    If Sotutu comes on, it's probably for DP, which means Savea moves to 7

    In the backs:
    If Mounga is having a stinker and you want to tow him, you have to move your 15 to 10, your 12 to 15, and bring on a midfielder.
    If a winger goes down you have to move your centre.

    I absolutely fucking hate having to make 2 or more changes to swap one player. "Positionless" rugby has been tried a few times and it fucking doesn't work because rugby teams are about guys in certain positions doing certain jobs. And it's very very difficult, even for elite players, to swap roles mid-game, especially under the fatigue of a high-intensity test match.

    My only quibbles in the run-on side is i would have started Sami T (but i can see the logic in bringing him in later) and i still believe we are turning our current form lock around the track into an adequate blindside.

    I still think we'll win though, the above are minor quibbles. And just another case of "that's not how i would do it so you suck" which infests this place.

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....

    (ducks for cover)

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    the bench selection really is quite weird. There are at least two guys there who are old fashioned reserves.

    Start up front, to bring the 6 on, in all likelihood it results in the blindside moving to lock.
    If Sotutu comes on, it's probably for DP, which means Savea moves to 7

    In the backs:
    If Mounga is having a stinker and you want to tow him, you have to move your 15 to 10, your 12 to 15, and bring on a midfielder.
    If a winger goes down you have to move your centre.

    I absolutely fucking hate having to make 2 or more changes to swap one player. "Positionless" rugby has been tried a few times and it fucking doesn't work because rugby teams are about guys in certain positions doing certain jobs. And it's very very difficult, even for elite players, to swap roles mid-game, especially under the fatigue of a high-intensity test match.

    My only quibbles in the run-on side is i would have started Sami T (but i can see the logic in bringing him in later) and i still believe we are turning our current form lock around the track into an adequate blindside.

    I still think we'll win though, the above are minor quibbles. And just another case of "that's not how i would do it so you suck" which infests this place.

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....

    (ducks for cover)

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    the bench selection really is quite weird. There are at least two guys there who are old fashioned reserves.

    Start up front, to bring the 6 on, in all likelihood it results in the blindside moving to lock.
    If Sotutu comes on, it's probably for DP, which means Savea moves to 7

    In the backs:
    If Mounga is having a stinker and you want to tow him, you have to move your 15 to 10, your 12 to 15, and bring on a midfielder.
    If a winger goes down you have to move your centre.

    I absolutely fucking hate having to make 2 or more changes to swap one player. "Positionless" rugby has been tried a few times and it fucking doesn't work because rugby teams are about guys in certain positions doing certain jobs. And it's very very difficult, even for elite players, to swap roles mid-game, especially under the fatigue of a high-intensity test match.

    My only quibbles in the run-on side is i would have started Sami T (but i can see the logic in bringing him in later) and i still believe we are turning our current form lock around the track into an adequate blindside.

    I still think we'll win though, the above are minor quibbles. And just another case of "that's not how i would do it so you suck" which infests this place.

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....

    (ducks for cover)

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v England:

    I would not be surprised to see a bolter make it we see one come out of the woodwork at WC time.

    And if from the AB XV environment, the bolter has some international experience and coaching staff have had a good look at him as well.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    the bench selection really is quite weird. There are at least two guys there who are old fashioned reserves.

    Start up front, to bring the 6 on, in all likelihood it results in the blindside moving to lock.
    If Sotutu comes on, it's probably for DP, which means Savea moves to 7

    In the backs:
    If Mounga is having a stinker and you want to tow him, you have to move your 15 to 10, your 12 to 15, and bring on a midfielder.
    If a winger goes down you have to move your centre.

    I absolutely fucking hate having to make 2 or more changes to swap one player. "Positionless" rugby has been tried a few times and it fucking doesn't work because rugby teams are about guys in certain positions doing certain jobs. And it's very very difficult, even for elite players, to swap roles mid-game, especially under the fatigue of a high-intensity test match.

    My only quibbles in the run-on side is i would have started Sami T (but i can see the logic in bringing him in later) and i still believe we are turning our current form lock around the track into an adequate blindside.

    I still think we'll win though, the above are minor quibbles. And just another case of "that's not how i would do it so you suck" which infests this place.

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....

    (ducks for cover)

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....
    (ducks for cover)

    Be fucking hilarious if DH end up at 10 or 15 and then wins the game with a last-minute drop goal.....

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v England:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....
    (ducks for cover)

    Be fucking hilarious if DH end up at 10 or 15 and then wins the game with a last-minute drop goal.....

    I'd be more than happy,, and would be drinking humble wine

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks v England:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v England:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....
    (ducks for cover)

    Be fucking hilarious if DH end up at 10 or 15 and then wins the game with a last-minute drop goal.....

    I'd be more than happy,, and would be drinking humble wine

    He be Beaver the Second.

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks v England:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v England:

    the bench selection really is quite weird. There are at least two guys there who are old fashioned reserves.

    Start up front, to bring the 6 on, in all likelihood it results in the blindside moving to lock.
    If Sotutu comes on, it's probably for DP, which means Savea moves to 7

    In the backs:
    If Mounga is having a stinker and you want to tow him, you have to move your 15 to 10, your 12 to 15, and bring on a midfielder.
    If a winger goes down you have to move your centre.

    I absolutely fucking hate having to make 2 or more changes to swap one player. "Positionless" rugby has been tried a few times and it fucking doesn't work because rugby teams are about guys in certain positions doing certain jobs. And it's very very difficult, even for elite players, to swap roles mid-game, especially under the fatigue of a high-intensity test match.

    My only quibbles in the run-on side is i would have started Sami T (but i can see the logic in bringing him in later) and i still believe we are turning our current form lock around the track into an adequate blindside.

    I still think we'll win though, the above are minor quibbles. And just another case of "that's not how i would do it so you suck" which infests this place.

    Orrrrrrr - DH is straight cover for 10 and 15....

    (ducks for cover)

    Maybe they're thinking JB goes to 10 and DH and ALB can stink up the midfield.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks v England:

    Thanks, Stephen P, for coming to the UK to play the two minutes.

    The Kevin Senio of 2022…

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    Well the trend so far this year for the AB's has been good, terrible, good, terrible.

    And given they were good against Wales and then terrible last week against Scotland the only logical conclusion one can draw is that they'll be good this weekend against England.

    There's really no more need for comprehensive analysis than that, a sparkling win to finish the season I assure all of you.

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