All Blacks v England
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ENGLAND XV
15. Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 15 caps)
14. Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 43 caps)
13. Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 48 caps)
12. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 99 caps)
11. Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 70 caps)
10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 15 caps)
9. Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)1.Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 41 caps)
2.Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 39 caps)
3.Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, 54 caps)
4.Maro Itoje (Saracens, 60 caps)
5.Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 17 caps)
6.Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 16 caps)
7.Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 43 caps)
8.Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 66 caps)FINISHERS
16.Jamie George (Saracens, 70 caps)
17.Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 72 caps)
18.Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 23 caps)
19.David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
20.Jack Willis (unattached, 5 caps)
21.Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 119 caps)
22.Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
23.Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 50 caps) -
It’s an experienced side overall other than the very newish 9/10 combo. I do like both players and there is talent of a bit raw, but it should be an area of focus for the ABs defence.
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I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
I'm happy to point out the positive
What's the positive?
With Clarke? His work under the high ball, breaks he's been making, work in close getting over the advantage line. Just off the top of my head.
Workons? Tackling/defence in general, link play, staying on his feet in general.
Sums things up for me. Has had a few poor-ish games but not for lack of effort.
Def. worth sticking with.
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@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH
TBH I can't understand both DH and ALB on the bench. An injury to a winger means we move our best centre to accommodate the bench.
Frizzel and Sotutu suggests they expect the backrow battle to be attritional. Scotty to move to lock around 50mins. The problem with that line of thought is his legs will surely be done playing at blindside?
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@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...
It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.
There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.
I think Beaudys days are numbered.
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@Steve said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...
It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.
There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.
I think Beaudys days are numbered.
So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v England:
No real surprises there except starting Taylor.
Are they rotating Nepo & Ofa?
Nepo and Fletch.
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Two good fucking sides should be a ripper of a game
We win and everyone heads in to summer feeling pretty good.
Lose though and all we'll remember is this game and the early part of the year.
Who'd be an AB coach aye?
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@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@Steve said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...
It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.
There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.
I think Beaudys days are numbered.
So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked
This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).
He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.
Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.
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@Steve said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@Steve said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...
It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.
There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.
I think Beaudys days are numbered.
So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked
This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).
He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.
Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.
The best comparison I can recall was Laurie Mains and his constant chopping and changing all the way up into the 1995 RWC. Foster will hope that something sticks in time for 2023. But from where I am sitting he just seems to be guessing
