2022 All Blacks NH tour
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@Bovidae said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
Amashukeli also has the Ireland-SA game, so WR hasn't learnt.
But they can claim how good they are at improving ref quality but starting from such a low base.
Barnes is about to become the most capped ref ever and he can be a very good ref for 95% of any given game. The along comes the other 5%.....
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@Machpants said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
Mildly amusing. But he’s a great ref now
Georgia’s Nika Amashukeli takes charge of the first test of the window when he handles Japan against New Zealand in Tokyo on October 29.
Ireland’s Frank Murphy will control the All Blacks against Scotland in Edinburgh on November 14.
Australian Nic Berry will whistle the All Blacks against England at Twickenham on November 20.
It seems that once you’re in as an international ref, you’re in. No matter how appalling c.f. Barnes. You can’t say WR don’t give ref’s time to develop!
Lots of learnings
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@canefan said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@Machpants said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
Mildly amusing. But he’s a great ref now
Georgia’s Nika Amashukeli takes charge of the first test of the window when he handles Japan against New Zealand in Tokyo on October 29.
Ireland’s Frank Murphy will control the All Blacks against Scotland in Edinburgh on November 14.
Australian Nic Berry will whistle the All Blacks against England at Twickenham on November 20.
It seems that once you’re in as an international ref, you’re in. No matter how appalling c.f. Barnes. You can’t say WR don’t give ref’s time to develop!
Lots of learnings
Scotland to put 50 on them at Murrayfield.
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Official:
allblacks 🚨 SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas 💪
@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin
@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.
Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.
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@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
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allblacks 🚨 SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas 💪
@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin
@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.
Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.
They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.
Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development. -
@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
Official:
allblacks 🚨 SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas 💪
@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin
@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.
Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.
They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.
Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).
I’m a fan of what he can bring though.
If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.
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@ACT-Crusader said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
Official:
allblacks 🚨 SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas 💪
@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin
@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.
Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.
They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.
Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).
I’m a fan of what he can bring though.
If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.
Genuinely think Dalton will go to 7, Harmon will be cover at 7.
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@Dan54 yeah, i hope we see harmon too, i think someone on a great run of form can really spark when given a glimpse of the big show
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@Kiwiwomble said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@Dan54 yeah, i hope we see harmon too, i think someone on a great run of form can really spark when given a glimpse of the big show
I really believe he is there as he rightly or wrongly seen as the body type that is wanted at test level, think that is what holds back Kirifi and Christie, the game is so power focusses now the day of a smaller jackal type player at 7 is almost gone and someone who can make dominant tackles is wanted?
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Unfortunately, Cane is so off the pace at the moment. It was obvious on Saturday when Papali'i came on the aggression ranked up a lot. I am keen to see how Harmon goes in black if he gets an opportunity. He was a one-man machine for the Clan when he finally came back.
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@ACT-Crusader said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.
Genuine question - when was the last time Ardie started at 7 for the ABs?
Papalii started Bledisloe 2 at 7 and was excellent.
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@ACT-Crusader said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@Stargazer said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
Official:
allblacks 🚨 SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas 💪
@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin
@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.
Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.
They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.
Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).
I’m a fan of what he can bring though.
If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.
Papali'i was very good, I think 9 tackles in 14 mins plus the turnover which iced the game. He and Tuipulotu (as with most of the bench) did their job in bringing energy.
I think to reduce disruption they'll straight swap Papali'i for Cane and keep Ardie at 8. That way they can free up a bench spot for Sotutu who I thought, barring the turnover on the tryline was generally good.
I can't see Frizell backing up against Wales. He's turning into the modern day Reuben Thorne which is not all bad, you need solid blindsides who do the dirty work, make their tackles, solid carries, rucks/mauls. Akira does that and provides much more with ball-in hand.
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@TheMojoman I reckon Frizell will get the job, I think he more the type of 6 we need. Akira tends to range wider which is not really needed with Ardie there?
Of course I could be talking through a hole in my head, and the coaching staff see it differently. lolo -
@Dan54 said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@TheMojoman I reckon Frizell will get the job, I think he more the type of 6 we need. Akira tends to range wider which is not really needed with Ardie there?
Of course I could be talking through a hole in my head, and the coaching staff see it differently. loloIMO horses for courses depending on the opposition. Akira is a good bench option against sides with bigger, tighter playing packs like Bok/Poms. TBH I’d prefer to see S.Barrett rather than Frizell against those sides. Seems to have more impact,
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@TheMojoman said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@Dan54 said in 2022 All Blacks NH tour:
@TheMojoman I reckon Frizell will get the job, I think he more the type of 6 we need. Akira tends to range wider which is not really needed with Ardie there?
Of course I could be talking through a hole in my head, and the coaching staff see it differently. loloIMO horses for courses depending on the opposition. Akira is a good bench option against sides with bigger, tighter playing packs like Bok/Poms. TBH I’d prefer to see S.Barrett rather than Frizell against those sides. Seems to have more impact,
But Scotty seems a top lock now...does he add as much at 6 as he does at lock?
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