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    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    @nzzp said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    Pfffft, it’s only the longest version of one of the short versions of cricket. No one cares about ODIs anymore. Don’t worry about it.

    Mind you if Kevin Pietersen has his way we won’t be playing test cricket in a few years.

    Fuck.

    Matthew Cooper  /  Aug 3, 2022  /  Cricket

    Kevin Pietersen predicts major Test changes by 2025 with potential 'game-changing' threat - The Mirror

    Kevin Pietersen predicts major Test changes by 2025 with potential 'game-changing' threat - The Mirror

    Kevin Pietersen believes players could "break away from international cricket completely" and that by 2025 "only the major nations will ever play Test cricket"

    can't see it, because the players wnat to play it.

    T20 pays the bills, but for a lot of cricket players and fans, Test Cricket is still where it's at. Only if that goes will it die... but people keep forecasting the death of Tests and they just keep surviving, delivering and getting better.

    …..and whilst test cricket can drag and be boring at times it is still far and away the best when it’s played well.

    there is nothing like a good Test match. Nothing in sport for me, it's pinnacle. You invest, you follow it, and the series twist and turn. That Aus India series last year was as good as it got; smashing people coming back with unlikely wins, and then a bunch of T20 players getting up at the Gabba to win the series and send us to the WTC game.

    Awesome.

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    Some might be surprised to know that NZ A is currently touring India, and playing in the 1st "test". One of the most bizarre scorecards in NZ A's first innings.

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-a-in-india-2022-1329818/india-a-vs-new-zealand-a-1st-unofficial-test-1329821/full-scorecard

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  • MN5M Offline
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    Interesting read and I’m in two minds about it.

    He had all the talent in the world but other less talented guys like Henry Nicholls didn’t have the off field dramas I guess.

    If alcohol wasn’t a factor I reckon a middle order of KW/Rossco/Ryder would have ABSOLUTELY kicked all sorts of arse at test level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300711480/jesse-ryder-says-he-should-have-been-given-another-chance-with-the-black-caps

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    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    Interesting read and I’m in two minds about it.

    He had all the talent in the world but other less talented guys like Henry Nicholls didn’t have the off field dramas I guess.

    If alcohol wasn’t a factor I reckon a middle order of KW/Rossco/Ryder would have ABSOLUTELY kicked all sorts of arse at test level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300711480/jesse-ryder-says-he-should-have-been-given-another-chance-with-the-black-caps

    Hard to know what happened behind the scenes. But JR seemed like a guy who didn't really want to be helped

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    Doesn't entirely add up, though? i'm afraid.

    When exactly were the 2 years of sobriety?

    I don't see a 2 year period where he was dominating but not getting picked for NZ opportunities. I only see 1 season 2014/15.

    Probably moot. The fact he couldn't last more than 2 years shows it was probably the correct decision regardless, sadly.

    Looking at this (list of NZ appearances):

    All-round records | Combined Test, ODI and T20I records | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

    All-round records | Combined Test, ODI and T20I records | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

    and this: https://archive.nzc.nz/Players/44/44321/f_Batting_by_Season.html

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    I can't help but think that's JR's definition of "sober" is a little different to the norm and probably why he didn't make it back into the team...

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    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    He had all the talent in the world but other less talented guys like Henry Nicholls didn’t have the off field dramas I guess.

    It's not just the off field dramas there's the issue of application of talent as relates to cricket.

    What's that old saying......

    Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

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    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    Interesting read and I’m in two minds about it.

    He had all the talent in the world but other less talented guys like Henry Nicholls didn’t have the off field dramas I guess.

    If alcohol wasn’t a factor I reckon a middle order of KW/Rossco/Ryder would have ABSOLUTELY kicked all sorts of arse at test level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300711480/jesse-ryder-says-he-should-have-been-given-another-chance-with-the-black-caps

    Nah. You need fitness to perform consistently at test level. He never really did.

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    @ARHS said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    Interesting read and I’m in two minds about it.

    He had all the talent in the world but other less talented guys like Henry Nicholls didn’t have the off field dramas I guess.

    If alcohol wasn’t a factor I reckon a middle order of KW/Rossco/Ryder would have ABSOLUTELY kicked all sorts of arse at test level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300711480/jesse-ryder-says-he-should-have-been-given-another-chance-with-the-black-caps

    Nah. You need fitness to perform consistently at test level. He never really did.

    He would have rocked if he'd come through in the 80s. His body type would fit right in

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    @canefan said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    @ARHS said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    @MN5 said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    Interesting read and I’m in two minds about it.

    He had all the talent in the world but other less talented guys like Henry Nicholls didn’t have the off field dramas I guess.

    If alcohol wasn’t a factor I reckon a middle order of KW/Rossco/Ryder would have ABSOLUTELY kicked all sorts of arse at test level.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300711480/jesse-ryder-says-he-should-have-been-given-another-chance-with-the-black-caps

    Nah. You need fitness to perform consistently at test level. He never really did.

    He would have rocked if he'd come through in the 80s. His body type would fit right in

    Never bothered Warne. Boon did well too, Big Merv went ok.

    Then again…….

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    Cricket season starts with AUS ENG. Not a series I think either seem super interested in.

    That said, Sandpaper Warner is a hell of a player. Just extraordinary timing. Looks a class above right now

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    NZ v India T20’s

    Second match just starting (first game was abandoned)

    India XI: Ishan Kishan, Rishabh Pant (wK), Suryakumar Yadav, Shreyas Iyer, Deepak Hooda, Hardik Pandya (capt), Washington Sundar, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Arshdeep Singh, Mohammed Siraj, Yuzvendra Chahal.

    New Zealand XI: Finn Allen, Devon Conway (wK), Kane Williamson (capt), Glenn Phillips, Daryl Mitchell, James Neesham, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Adam Milne, Lockie Ferguson

    NZ chose to bowl

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  • DamoD Offline
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    We're in trouble after 3 overs. Our attack looks pretty innocuous so far.

    And we can't hit the stumps in the field.

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    NZ looking a bit sloppy in the field again.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    @Crazy-Horse got a wicket though

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    @nzzp said in NZ Cricket 2022:

    @Crazy-Horse got a wicket though

    Bugger I missed that! Typical.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    Raining now but I don't think for long.

    Down the road in Bethlehem I can report there is no rain.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    That looked plumb

    Drs working I guess?

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    Going at about 7.5 after 8.

    59-1

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