Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host
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Watching that Black Ferns doco last night (Ep1, was really good) and the BFs looked very very underprepped for that tour last year. Bodyheights/positions, defence systems etc have all improved since then.
Not saying that England and France won't have improved as well but I don't think we will be anywhere near as poor as that tour. -
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@Crucial said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@NTA I am confident that we are above USA. If fact Aus may even be above them as well if not alongside.
After watching Fijiana beat our best side fairly comfortably, and knowing the state of womens XVs here, I'm not as confident.
The rankings adequately reflect where we are: a team of amateurs under the administration of amateurs.
All the Shute Shield clubs are meant to have XVs sides in 2023 and not even half of them will get there because the effort from club admins is zero. Massive opportunity for growth in rugby - and probably the only opportunity for growth in rugby - and they refuse to divert resources into it.
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@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@Crucial said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@NTA I am confident that we are above USA. If fact Aus may even be above them as well if not alongside.
After watching Fijiana beat our best side fairly comfortably, and knowing the state of womens XVs here, I'm not as confident.
The rankings adequately reflect where we are: a team of amateurs under the administration of amateurs.
All the Shute Shield clubs are meant to have XVs sides in 2023 and not even half of them will get there because the effort from club admins is zero. Massive opportunity for growth in rugby - and probably the only opportunity for growth in rugby - and they refuse to divert resources into it.
We really should have at least a crossover between the two country's comps.
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Side rant: as an admin for a small club, we've got a womens 7s side that has had varying degrees of success and participation the last 3 seasons (thanks COVID and Gen Z bitchiness). TBH we lack the volunteers to give it a full go, and the competition they play in is tournament Sundays where the mens play Saturdays.
I'm also a Board member for our Suburban comp and we've identified womens as very important to get going on Saturdays and play alongside the mens. Either as 7s (maybe longer halves) or 10s.
I have refereed a couple of the womens Sunday tournaments this year, as well as running one at our club. Every time the tournament notice goes out, clubs are told they need to supply an AR. The ones that usually do are Subbies clubs. Premier don't even give a fuck enough to supply more than a manager/coach on the day, and they're the fluffybunnies with all the money.
The Premier Rugby Board just expects everyone to turn up and fall over themselves to be part of their great "grassroots" rugby, instead of actually finding the means to make their operations sustainable. They've got no idea what grassroots means, they just wave the word around and complain that nobody funds their shitty product.
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@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
I would have loved to jet over there and catch a couple of games, and was even planning to earlier in the year, but fuck the costs of flights, quite frankly.
That’s dedication. Most people I know can’t even get off their arses to watch mens Rugby at the stadium let along go overseas for woman’s rugby.
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@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
the competition they play in is tournament Sundays
And the biggest joke of this: sometimes our little club will be playing against teams with rep players or NSW wider squad girls.
Why? "Oh because we had XVs yesterday so we're missing a few people. You don't mind if we drop down into your grade and still smash fuck out of everyone yeah?"
It is easy to ref, mind you, as you're only going between halfway and the goal posts at one end.
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@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Side rant: as an admin for a small club, we've got a womens 7s side that has had varying degrees of success and participation the last 3 seasons (thanks COVID and Gen Z bitchiness). TBH we lack the volunteers to give it a full go, and the competition they play in is tournament Sundays where the mens play Saturdays.
I'm also a Board member for our Suburban comp and we've identified womens as very important to get going on Saturdays and play alongside the mens. Either as 7s (maybe longer halves) or 10s.
I have refereed a couple of the womens Sunday tournaments this year, as well as running one at our club. Every time the tournament notice goes out, clubs are told they need to supply an AR. The ones that usually do are Subbies clubs. Premier don't even give a fuck enough to supply more than a manager/coach on the day, and they're the fluffybunnies with all the money.
The Premier Rugby Board just expects everyone to turn up and fall over themselves to be part of their great "grassroots" rugby, instead of actually finding the means to make their operations sustainable. They've got no idea what grassroots means, they just wave the word around and complain that nobody funds their shitty product.
So things haven't changed since my days being involved over there NTA.
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@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
I would have loved to jet over there and catch a couple of games, and was even planning to earlier in the year, but fuck the costs of flights, quite frankly.
I doubt whether I can head up tp games, my only little thing is I have signed up tp Spark Sport to follow the tournament, I will then drop it again. This is from someone who has never been in raptures over women's rugby, but feel I want to support it where I can etc.
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For those that don't want to pay for Spark Sport there is a free to air option of 8 games including all NZ Pool matches
Edit: FTA in UK is via ITV (some on ITV, some on ITV4)
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@Dan54 said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Side rant: as an admin for a small club, we've got a womens 7s side that has had varying degrees of success and participation the last 3 seasons (thanks COVID and Gen Z bitchiness). TBH we lack the volunteers to give it a full go, and the competition they play in is tournament Sundays where the mens play Saturdays.
I'm also a Board member for our Suburban comp and we've identified womens as very important to get going on Saturdays and play alongside the mens. Either as 7s (maybe longer halves) or 10s.
I have refereed a couple of the womens Sunday tournaments this year, as well as running one at our club. Every time the tournament notice goes out, clubs are told they need to supply an AR. The ones that usually do are Subbies clubs. Premier don't even give a fuck enough to supply more than a manager/coach on the day, and they're the fluffybunnies with all the money.
The Premier Rugby Board just expects everyone to turn up and fall over themselves to be part of their great "grassroots" rugby, instead of actually finding the means to make their operations sustainable. They've got no idea what grassroots means, they just wave the word around and complain that nobody funds their shitty product.
So things haven't changed since my days being involved over there NTA.
Except it is shrinking
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Runners-up is an optimistic prediction. Everything will depend on how the SF match-ups pan out. For the BFs and every other team, that means avoiding England. But France won't be easy either. Maybe England and France end up playing each other in one SF, which wouldn't say much for the integrity of the format as they are in the same pool.
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@Bovidae said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Runners-up is an optimistic prediction. Everything will depend on how the SF match-ups pan out. For the BFs and every other team, that means avoiding England. But France won't be easy either. Maybe England and France end up playing each other in one SF, which wouldn't say much for the integrity of the format as they are in the same pool.
Lol world rugby and integrity of format at world cups.
This is the same bunch that seed 3 years before the comp for the men and end up with the top 4 teams on the same side of the draw
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@Machpants A different argument here. You're getting 8 teams for the QFs from only 3 pools, which will be seeded based on the position they finished in their respective pools and most competition points scored.
Even with the absurd early seedings at the RWC, there is still winner and runner-up from each pool so you know your path through the play-offs.
