Passing of Queen Elizabeth
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@MajorRage said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
Rage family laid flowers at Windsor last week then also watched the hearse go past.
I thought the way they carefully laid out, along the route, all the flowers that people had previously left at Windsor a great touch.
It’s really caught me out the impact this has had on me. Im pretty far from a Royalist but I’ve really felt this.
Me too. Seeing the flowers that members of the public had thrown still on the hearse when it entered the castle made me a bit emotional.
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I didn't think this level of pomp and ceremony could be pulled off in the modern world but well done to the British, that was magnificent. You will never again see the like. Take away modern things like cars etc and you could be in 16th century Britain.
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@Billy-Tell said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
I didn't think this level of pomp and ceremony could be pulled off in the modern world but well done to the British, that was magnificent. You will never again see the like. Take away modern things like cars etc and you could be in 16th century Britain.
Yet it was strangely very modern and not a bit out of place in today's multicultural, diverse (I mean that in a good way) non-deferential Britain.
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The chapel service was even better. Not every day you see an orb and sceptre.
Charles must be utterly spent now physically and emotionally.
I’d be pretty keen on NZ not becoming a republic i must say. I’d shudder to think of the PC palaver if NZ had to name its own head of state. This way there is no politics involved and the royal family has no power so its win win.
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@Billy-Tell said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
The chapel service was even better. Not every day you see an orb and sceptre.
Charles must be utterly spent now physically and emotionally.
I’d be pretty keen on NZ not becoming a republic a must say. I’d shudder to think of the PC palaver if NZ had to name its own head of state. This way there is no politics involved and the royal family has no power so its win win.
If it ain't broke, why fix it? I heard Jacinda say on TV a couple of days ago that she expects NZ to become a republic in her lifetime. Probably not the most appropriate time to discuss that
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@canefan said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
@Billy-Tell said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
The chapel service was even better. Not every day you see an orb and sceptre.
Charles must be utterly spent now physically and emotionally.
I’d be pretty keen on NZ not becoming a republic a must say. I’d shudder to think of the PC palaver if NZ had to name its own head of state. This way there is no politics involved and the royal family has no power so its win win.
If it ain't broke, why fix it? I heard Jacinda say on TV a couple of days ago that she expects NZ to become a republic in her lifetime. Probably not the most appropriate time to discuss that
It was an answer to a direct question. Same was being asked of Australia. I thought the response was suitably diplomatic, saying there is no great appetite at present but acknowledging that it was a growing sentiment.
Without starting a politics diversion I have come around to the idea that the positives of a monarchy as head of state outweigh the negatives for a small country such as ourselves.
The thought of a President of NZ makes me shudder. An apolitical Head works much better. -
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
@Billy-Tell said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
I didn't think this level of pomp and ceremony could be pulled off in the modern world but well done to the British, that was magnificent. You will never again see the like. Take away modern things like cars etc and you could be in 16th century Britain.
Yet it was strangely very modern and not a bit out of place in today's multicultural, diverse (I mean that in a good way) non-deferential Britain.
The demographics of the mourners (queue, lying in state, Windsor, today) has encompassed everything from everywhere.
It’s so easy to forget that Twitter, and Politicians, are not Britain.
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@booboo said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
Despite myself I've started watching the funeral.
It's kind of fascinating. John Major etc ...
But I do grump at "The Queen has dealt with 15 Prime Ministers" bullshit.
She's been the Queen of the Commonwealth for 70 years. Been a heck of a lot of PMs across all our countries in those 70 years.
i heard she was often the first to point that out when people said things like that, i feel she really was one of the last the really saw the commonwealth as a real....thing
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@Kiwiwomble said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
@booboo said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
Despite myself I've started watching the funeral.
It's kind of fascinating. John Major etc ...
But I do grump at "The Queen has dealt with 15 Prime Ministers" bullshit.
She's been the Queen of the Commonwealth for 70 years. Been a heck of a lot of PMs across all our countries in those 70 years.
i heard she was often the first to point that out when people said things like that, i feel she really was one of the last the really saw the commonwealth as a real....thing
Pedant correction. She wasn't Queen of the Commonwealth. She was Head of the Commonwealth and had to lobby for approval that Charles would take over when she finished (not that it was hard)
She was individually the monarch of various countries eg Queen of Australia, Queen of New Zealand. Not of a group.
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@Crucial i assume to meant to correct @booboo
i never said she was queen of the commonwealth, just that apparently she saw all commonwealth countries and therefore their PM's as important, and specifically would correct people when they she said she had seen 15 PM's...."there have been many more that that"
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Just looked up how many countries she was Queen for (hope this is correct). There are 54 countries in the commonwealth, including the UK
At the time of her death, Queen Elizabeth II ruled over 15 countries in the Commonwealth and 14 additional overseas territories, which collectively are home to over 150 million people, according to Time
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@Kiwiwomble Sorry if it seemed I was correcting you. I was quoting the conversation.
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@Crucial you have to make sure you're perfectly clear when being a pedant
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@Kiwiwomble said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
@Crucial you have to make sure you're perfectly clear when being a pedant
Double pedantry. Sounds great
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@MajorRage said in Passing of Queen Elizabeth:
I think the ultimate tribute came from, oddly, Macron.
“To you, she was your Queen. To us, she was The Queen”.
You can’t top that.
That's brilliant
