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Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.
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@nostrildamus said in Blindside:
@Canes4life said in Blindside:
Caleb Delany
a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...
same height as Ardie (in the stats book)
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Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.
Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.
Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.
Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.
But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.
Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.
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@nostrildamus said in Blindside:
@Canes4life said in Blindside:
Caleb Delany
a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...
same height as Ardie (in the stats book)
I've found heights from 1.9 1.94 1.95 and 1.98
Lions and Canes say 1.94 so I suspect that is most accurate..https://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/squad/caleb-delany
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@nostrildamus Delany definitely suits 6 rather than lock from what I’ve seen of him. He’s very good in the lineout, he's sound defensively and he carries hard.
He’s not a flashy 6 but he’s the type of 6 the All Blacks should be looking at going forward.
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E Blackadder for me is the guy that should be our 6.
Brusing defender & good over the ball.
Not sure who as backup tho
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@nostrildamus said in Blindside:
@Canes4life said in Blindside:
Caleb Delany
a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...
Wonder if he can play 12?
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Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.
Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.
Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.
Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.
But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.
Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.
Eh? He was one of our best in 2014 and 2015. In 2016 he was still very solid. 2017 a bit up and down. He was playing a bit better in 2018. Captaincy and output wasn’t great in 2019.
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Thinking about if Blackadder was to be the 6, a trio of him, Cane and Ardie is quite "small", so I can then start to see the benefit of someone like PSG at 8 or Akira moving again. But then it's Ardie to the bench - so better off just having Blackadder on the bench.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:
Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.
Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.
Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.
Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.
But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.
Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.
Eh? He was one of our best in 2014 and 2015. In 2016 he was still very solid. 2017 a bit up and down. He was playing a bit better in 2018. Captaincy and output wasn’t great in 2019.
I feel like Whitelock should've been given the captaincy after McCaw, and more investment in Luatua alongside Read, which would've paid dividends now as he'd be the senior loose forward with Cane and potentially have 100+ caps.
Under Read's tenure we lost to Ireland, lost to the Lions (yes, a draw at home is a loss..), rolled over to England in the RWC semi. I'll never forget how his interview was a weird mixture of relieved and happy after Ireland "finally" beat us in Chicago.
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Thinking about if Blackadder was to be the 6, a trio of him, Cane and Ardie is quite "small", so I can then start to see the benefit of someone like PSG at 8 or Akira moving again. But then it's Ardie to the bench - so better off just having Blackadder on the bench.
Surely if you want a big 8 it is Cane vs Ardie at 7 or Ardie on the bench but not to 6.
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@nostrildamus I didn't say anywhere about Ardie to 6. No point rejigging if you're just gonna drop Cane - might as well just do a straight swap with Blackadder and keep the rest the same.
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@Stargazer said in Blindside:
MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC
Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.
Often not hearing or seeing a forward on the park is a sign of a high work-rate.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Blindside:
@Stargazer said in Blindside:
MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC
Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.
Often not hearing or seeing a forward on the park is a sign of a high work-rate.
Reuben Thorne has just entered the chat
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@nostrildamus I didn't say anywhere about Ardie to 6. No point rejigging if you're just gonna drop Cane - might as well just do a straight swap with Blackadder and keep the rest the same.
my bad. I think I see what you mean now.
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Under Read's tenure we lost to Ireland, lost (home draw is a loss..) the Lions, rolled over to England in the RWC semi. I'll never forget how his interview was a weird mixture of relieved and happy after Ireland "finally" beat us in Chicago.
Agree on Read and captaincy. I, for one, don't miss the panic-stricken wild-eyed look and always wonder if he'd gone better without the captain's armband.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Blindside:
@Stargazer said in Blindside:
MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC
Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.
Often not hearing or seeing a forward on the park is a sign of a high work-rate.
That must be it then eh. If only the Welly loosies had performed that well...
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@ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Blindside:
@Stargazer said in Blindside:
MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC
Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.
Often not hearing or seeing a forward on the park is a sign of a high work-rate.
Reuben Thorne has just entered the chat
I recall reading some stats on here that Reuben's workrate, e.g. speed to the ball, was actually really high. Think Frizzell was pretty similar in Boks II.