Springboks v All Blacks I
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@BartMan said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders start Fletcher Newell. Can't do worse, Angus and Tyrrell are dead ends. Throw the new boy in the deep end.
That knee thing is stupid, same as when you put your hand down and then remind. It stops a collapse,so it's not good thing!
Technical infringement - peak Gardner ☺️
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman you lot can be glad Deon Fourie isn't playing. He has been outstanding all season for the Stormers.
I'd be more worried if Boks chose Roos or Louw, than Fourie. Kwagga is a great option off the bench as he covers every position apart from the front row 😂.
Fourie isn't displacing Kolisi.
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman the tell is more obvious than that. It's the knees leaning on the tackled player, while his hands rest on the ground about a metre forward of that, combined with the fact he still can't get the leverage to lift.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders Fourie is a prime poacher. Started as a 2.
I know who he is. He's 35. If the Boks have an injury crisis, they'll perhaps pick him. But he isn't the future. So he won't get much of an opportunity.
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@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders Not sure that’s pulling apart the backfield myself.
If by pulling players out of position to put kicks in to pin NZ in and around their 22m to build pressure, I would have to disagree with you
Either the players weren't in position because they were badly positioned in the first place, or the Boks caused them to not be in position. Either way, there was plenty of space available that allowed the Boks to kick for territory and squeeze NZ.
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@stodders i agree that’s the case on the #1 but the others aren’t so much pulling players around. Willemse has numbers on the overlap but kicks instead. The last one is going to run into a wall so just boots it over. DDA has just broken through then gives the ball back, effectively.
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@NTA said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@NTA said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
None of my posts should be taken in any other context than "The Boks are a very good side with a fairly solid history together, so any loss against them should be part of the accounting".
Marx is a fucking weapon.
He is. But christ, just settling in to watch a replay and the first of a number of turnovers look as dodgy as shit. Leaning on players to get hands on the ball, and AG just looks at it and thinks 'fair enough'.
I also thought a couple of them failed to show "strong body position" and "lifting the ball" which is what the refs are after.
Check out 5.48 in this:
Not only does Am shoulder check Bower so he misses Marx on clean, but Marx has one hand between Angus T's legs. He couldn't lift ball without lifting entire weight of Angus, who isn't really holding on!
So many penalties available, AG didn't know where to look.
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@SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@pakman omg im sorry for you, watching the All Blacks must have been terrible for you, you must have hated every second of every game that the good all Blacks have played for the last thirty years
Ha! We all know that the ABs have not traditionally been angels. But I think they've been slightly brow beaten into going back too far the other side of the line. That TMO job on us in Ireland2 still riles.
Just keen to open eyes on the systematic approach Boks have been pursuing very efficiently.
If ref's think that's alright, then we need to copy accordingly!