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    #102

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

    Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

    I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

    I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

    I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
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    I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

    Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

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    #103

    Far out I'm glad we control World Rugby as that deserves a citing

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

    Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

    I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

    I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

    I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
    alt text

    I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

    Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

    as i said before, i'd be pretty annoyed if someone did that to us

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    what. a. Dumb fluffybunny.

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    surely we have someone young and up and coming to replace Vaa'i...what does Tuipulotu bring to the table when we're building towards the next world cup

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    @Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).

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    #108

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).

    The Canterbury lock Gallagher looked good from what I saw of him.

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    Otherwise, it's probably Dickson from the Māori. SB back to lock then.

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    @KiwiMurph they've shown theyer going to esy the youngs guys in so why not identify the next young guys, just dont see the logic in replacing a youngs guys with an "old" one

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    #111

    So we are past the time in which Scott Barrett could be cited?

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    @Kiwiwomble "Experience".

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    @Frank Yes.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Kiwiwomble "Experience".

    ....but we didn;t feel we needed that spot to be filled with much experience before

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Tuipulotu is 29. The next 2-3 years should be prime for a tight five player

    If you think someone else is better that makes sense.

    Claiming we need a younger player because we're building for the RWC is silly

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    #116

    @Frank said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Kiwiwomble The young up and comers are Vaai and Lord. Pari Pari is probably another (injured).

    The Canterbury lock Gallagher looks good in what what I saw of him.

    He's 20 years old. I'm a fan but let's not rush him in too early. He could be a great candidate for the All Black XV at the end of the year.

    I'm not a huge fan of Tuipulotu as an AB but I can see the logic in this situation where you are coming in halfway through test week 2 of a 3 match series.

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    From Stuff: (I have corrected their typo).

    Highlanders Josh Dickson and Shannon Frizell are training with the All Blacks but are not part of the official squad.

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    @Bovidae Hmmm that suggests Ioane's foot might still be a problem

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    the other thing to consider, is the form of players returning from Japan...

    @Steven-Harris interviewed Pat after his club game on Saturday, reckons he is in great shape, but, is that great shape for AB rugby?

    I hope he pans out, he has all the physical attributes to be a world class lock.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300629666/all-blacks-lock-sam-whitelock-out-of-second-test-against-ireland-with-delayed-onset-concussion

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    @Daffy-Jaffy Bugger!

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