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    @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    Oh, and Aaron Cruden was sitting a few rows behind me.

    Did he look match fit?

    Maybe not so much after those beers. 😉

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    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @KiwiMurph said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.

    I thought that Norris was one of the best forwards. His ball-handling/carrying was great in difficult conditions, and his side of the scrum was good. Lomax was terrible, in comparison.

    The scrum where we shunted them back and the ball went out looked to be all Norris. You see his opposite almost bring him down then he brings it back up and stormed through him on the second shove.

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    Great result. There are some talented lads in that Maori team. All of them but Zarn, Norris, Harmon, Grace, and Stevenson especially stood out. Bloody hell, how good was Zarn tonight! He was a young J. Barrett alpha without the brain explosions! Grace stopped the Irish on the Maori line twice! Huge!
    If any winger goes down in the ABs, Stevenson should be next in line. His skill set is immense. The Chiefs looked better when he was on the field.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    If any winger goes down in the ABs, Stevenson should be next in line. His skill set is immense.

    How many you had bro?

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    If any winger goes down in the ABs, Stevenson should be next in line. His skill set is immense.

    As long as he doesn’t have to pass to his right

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    @Bones said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @KiwiMurph said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.

    I thought that Norris was one of the best forwards. His ball-handling/carrying was great in difficult conditions, and his side of the scrum was good. Lomax was terrible, in comparison.

    The scrum where we shunted them back and the ball went out looked to be all Norris. You see his opposite almost bring him down then he brings it back up and stormed through him on the second shove.

    That kind of scrum result doesn't happen without your tighthead also doing his job though. Gotta give Lomax some credit there too.

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    @Frye said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Bones said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @KiwiMurph said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.

    I thought that Norris was one of the best forwards. His ball-handling/carrying was great in difficult conditions, and his side of the scrum was good. Lomax was terrible, in comparison.

    The scrum where we shunted them back and the ball went out looked to be all Norris. You see his opposite almost bring him down then he brings it back up and stormed through him on the second shove.

    That kind of scrum result doesn't happen without your tighthead also doing his job though. Gotta give Lomax some credit there too.

    Oh for sure, he definitely wasn't going backwards - but the way it dipped and the strength of Norris to bring it back from the brink of collapse and then take it up a gear with the shove was bloody impressive for a youngster.

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    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    Oh, and Aaron Cruden was sitting a few rows behind me.

    Did he look match fit?

    Maybe not so much after those beers. 😉

    He was fine last time

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    Zarn too, he's usually quite placid, but enthusiasm and fire in buckets this game.

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    Ioane miraculously springs back to his form from 3 seasons ago. Come back Josh!

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    @Bones said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    Ioane miraculously springs back to his form from 3 seasons ago. Come back Josh!

    Thought Josh did a lot good, but seemed to do one or two things that were a bit annoying for his team, silly passes to noone etc, but to be honest liked his game and will rewatch it on the box when I get home..
    I also go along with Bones and thouht Norris looked good, and thought it looked like locks were working hard in scrums, a good seemingly good day by whole forward pack.

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    Ireland may manage to put things together for their number one team but you'd have to say that there's a way to go in the 'jersey pride' stakes.
    While I'm sure that there are some disappointed players from last night the sight of the coach laughing and grinning in the post match interview as if this was an U20 invitational side was a far cry from what we would have seen from any of our sides.
    Bit harsh?

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129127451/appalling-outrage-after-stumbling-irish-prop-returns-to-play-against-mori-all-blacks

    'mori' ABs?

    Ignore the clickbait headline but I was surprised when Loughman returned to play. My swift conclusion was that he must always look punch drunk so his appearance leaving the field wasn't unusual.

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    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    Just got back from the game.

    A couple of general comments looking ahead to the test:
    (1) You can see the line speed Ireland bring to defence, but they were often getting penalised (i.e., no.5) for shooting out too early.
    (2) Speed of passing from the halfbacks will be so important for the ABs. Weber was quicker but erratic with his passing. TJP was so slow the receiver had little time to catch the ball without an Irish player in their face. It's very obvious why neither are in the ABs.
    (3) When Ireland get their short passing game going combined with quick ruck ball they will test the AB defence.

    agree with those points and one other thing I noticed was that Ireland didn't attack the ball in the rucks at all as in didn't go looking for turnovers or even slow it down.. gave the maoris pretty quick clean ball then they could attach the fringes of hte rucks and make good ground. Can't imagine the 'A' team will be allowing that to happen

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    @Crucial he was holding the trainer as he left the field! Bizarre to see him come back on.

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    @WillieTheWaiter said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    Just got back from the game.

    A couple of general comments looking ahead to the test:
    (1) You can see the line speed Ireland bring to defence, but they were often getting penalised (i.e., no.5) for shooting out too early.
    (2) Speed of passing from the halfbacks will be so important for the ABs. Weber was quicker but erratic with his passing. TJP was so slow the receiver had little time to catch the ball without an Irish player in their face. It's very obvious why neither are in the ABs.
    (3) When Ireland get their short passing game going combined with quick ruck ball they will test the AB defence.

    agree with those points and one other thing I noticed was that Ireland didn't attack the ball in the rucks at all as in didn't go looking for turnovers or even slow it down.. gave the maoris pretty quick clean ball then they could attach the fringes of hte rucks and make good ground. Can't imagine the 'A' team will be allowing that to happen

    That was only after Barnes decided they were playing his leniency by having unstable players 'pushed over' by team mates and falling on the wrong side. I saw lots of hands on the ground which was at odds to the way Super was reffed.

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    @Frye said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Crucial he was holding the trainer as he left the field! Bizarre to see him come back on.

    For sure, was quite obviously not all there. How the doc let him return is beyond me.

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    @Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Frye said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Crucial he was holding the trainer as he left the field! Bizarre to see him come back on.

    For sure, was quite obviously not all there. How the doc let him return is beyond me.

    He passed HIA, but he shouldn't have been allowed to take one. He should've been straight off, HIA is for head knocks where there is doubt, not some one who is obviously concussed

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    @Bones said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

    If any winger goes down in the ABs, Stevenson should be next in line. His skill set is immense.

    How many you had bro?

    You called it! Was on the red and got a bit excited judging by that language🤨 I have always wondered why Stevenson gets zero love though. He has played well for the Chiefs.

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