Black Caps tour of England 2022
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I blame Baz.
I hear Wagner will be fit and fresh for the third test.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I blame Baz.
I hear Wagner will be fit and fresh for the third test.
Well with Jamieson out, what choice does he have.
But man, how good is Mitchell, if we drop him for Nicholls when Williamson is back I will be so pissed.
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@Darren said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I blame Baz.
I hear Wagner will be fit and fresh for the third test.
Well with Jamieson out, what choice does he have.
But man, how good is Mitchell, if we drop him for Nicholls when Williamson is back I will be so pissed.
Drop Young or Nicholls
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I don't know what it is about NZC's High Performance approach in the last nine months or so, but it is fast resulting in a decline of high performance in NZ cricket.
We have coaches like Bob Carter being rewarded for an atrocious win-loss record by being sent straight back into his High Performance role. And since the time of the Indian tour we have had the Black Caps (and identically the White Ferns) steadfastly refusing to select one of their best performing, wicket taking, non-opening bowlers.
Add into it the age of the Black Caps pace attack, Kane being out of form and mostly out of sight, a mercurial top order, and a passive stand in captain, and it feels a little bit like watching the decline of All Blacks during the late stages of Steve Hansen's reign and into Fosters Flops...
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I don't know what it is about NZC's High Performance approach in the last nine months or so, but it is fast resulting in a decline of high performance in NZ cricket.
We have coaches like Bob Carter being rewarded for an atrocious win-loss record by being sent straight back into his High Performance role. And since the time of the Indian tour we have had the Black Caps (and identically the White Ferns) steadfastly refusing to select one of their best performing, wicket taking, non-opening bowlers.
Add into it the age of the Black Caps pace attack, Kane being out of form and mostly out of sight, a mercurial top order, and a passive stand in captain, and it feels a little bit like watching the decline of All Blacks during the late stages of Steve Hansen's reign and into Fosters Flops...
Our time at the summit was barely long enough to enjoy it. The frustrating thing is we are better than this
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I don't know what it is about NZC's High Performance approach in the last nine months or so, but it is fast resulting in a decline of high performance in NZ cricket.
We have coaches like Bob Carter being rewarded for an atrocious win-loss record by being sent straight back into his High Performance role. And since the time of the Indian tour we have had the Black Caps (and identically the White Ferns) steadfastly refusing to select one of their best performing, wicket taking, non-opening bowlers.
Add into it the age of the Black Caps pace attack, Kane being out of form and mostly out of sight, a mercurial top order, and a passive stand in captain, and it feels a little bit like watching the decline of All Blacks during the late stages of Steve Hansen's reign and into Fosters Flops...
Our time at the summit was barely long enough to enjoy it. The frustrating thing is we are better than this
Yep, it's curiosity of this team that we can score 550+ and somehow manage to lose. Though it's better than the mid 90's teams who would have been all out for 180 I guess
I wonder if Stead will repeat Sydney and leave out Southee for the third test...
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
The Stead-Latham combo strikes again!
We won the WTC in spite of Stead, not because of him.
Yep, it really looks like that, every time Kane is out our performance drops across the board. That's an embarrassing result.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
The Stead-Latham combo strikes again!
We won the WTC in spite of Stead, not because of him.
Yep, it really looks like that, every time Kane is out our performance drops across the board. That's an embarrassing result.
To be fair Kane played in game 1 and we weren't much better
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@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
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One brightside: Daryl Mitchell's form. I remember hoping that Kane would delay the declaration v Pakistan for another over or two so that all-rounder Son-of-John could slog his way to a first - and possibly only - test century, given likely team selections.
Now Daryl is opening the batting in T20I World Cups, has back to back Test centuries and a fifty in England, and was the guy batting with the tail like Watling last night.
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
What a fall from grace. From WTC champs to home losses to the Bangles and Proteas, and staring down the barrel of a series sweep to an England team who hadn't won a test in 16 previous attempts
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
What a fall from grace. From WTC champs to home losses to the Bangles and Proteas, and staring down the barrel of a series sweep to an England team who hadn't won a test in 16 previous attempts
Damn right.
The decline was inevitable but I didn’t expect it to happen this soon.
I pretty confidently predicted a win over this England team but what a turnaround they’ve had unfortunately coinciding with us shitting the bed.
Looks like we’re in for a long road of being also rans in the WTC.
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
What a fall from grace. From WTC champs to home losses to the Bangles and Proteas, and staring down the barrel of a series sweep to an England team who hadn't won a test in 16 previous attempts
Kind of a fall from grace for a lot of sports lately.
Cricket, rugby, soccer (just watched us lose at the pub), leagueEdit, no idea why I wrote league.
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@Darren said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
What a fall from grace. From WTC champs to home losses to the Bangles and Proteas, and staring down the barrel of a series sweep to an England team who hadn't won a test in 16 previous attempts
Kind of a fall from grace for a lot of sports lately.
Cricket, rugby, soccer (just watched us lose at the pub), leagueEdit, no idea why I wrote league.
Or Soccer. Not sure anyone expects the All Whites to qualify for the WC.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Darren said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
What a fall from grace. From WTC champs to home losses to the Bangles and Proteas, and staring down the barrel of a series sweep to an England team who hadn't won a test in 16 previous attempts
Kind of a fall from grace for a lot of sports lately.
Cricket, rugby, soccer (just watched us lose at the pub), leagueEdit, no idea why I wrote league.
Or Soccer. Not sure anyone expects the All Whites to qualify for the WC.
Yeah lunch beers... little optimistic I guess. But it was only 0 - 1 With a ton of chances to score, and a disallowed goal.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa The Canterbury cartel leading NZ cricket into oblivion.
What a fall from grace. From WTC champs to home losses to the Bangles and Proteas, and staring down the barrel of a series sweep to an England team who hadn't won a test in 16 previous attempts
Damn right.
The decline was inevitable but I didn’t expect it to happen this soon.
I pretty confidently predicted a win over this England team but what a turnaround they’ve had unfortunately coinciding with us shitting the bed.
Looks like we’re in for a long road of being also rans in the WTC.
It also coincides with McCullum taking the reigns and getting them in a better state mentally. At 93/4 they were ripe for the same kind of collapse they've pulled off in the previous 16 tests before this series. If England continue like this there will be a statue of McCullum at Lords before long.
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Ach. It’s you guys that are shitting the bed. You set us a target above anything done before at Trent Bridge, after a great first innings and a pretty good second innings. Had our two in form batsmen out cheaply but then lost to an out of the blue innings from Bairstow. For sure there were some pies bowled but equally some decent stuff that he just slaughtered. Plus a bit of good luck. Sometimes it’s just not your day and that was today for your guys, well half of today. That doesn’t make you lot a shit team and it doesn’t suddenly make us that good. If Bairstow gets one of his “meh” days, you win the test.
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@Catogrande said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
Ach. It’s you guys that are shitting the bed. You set us a target above anything done before at Trent Bridge, after a great first innings and a pretty good second innings. Had our two in form batsmen out cheaply but then lost to an out of the blue innings from Bairstow. For sure there were some pies bowled but equally some decent stuff that he just slaughtered. Plus a bit of good luck. Sometimes it’s just not your day and that was today for your guys, well half of today. That doesn’t make you lot a shit team and it doesn’t suddenly make us that good. If Bairstow gets one of his “meh” days, you win the test.
Far too reasonable. That's a downvote from me
