Stadium of Canterbury
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@Kiwiwomble I think Dunedin is a bit of an outlier - it was a bit of right-place right-time with the RWC and the stadium was relatively cheap.
Townsville which is a similar size to Dunedin had their stadium rebuilt for a similar cost.
Canberra is a similar size to Christchurch and they are pushing for a new stadium.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
kiwis also expect a lot..ballarat has over 100k population, so not much smaller than dunedin....ya dont see a 18k-30k covered stadium there
Yeah, the Otago region didn't need a stadium like the one they built. That was a silly amount of money for the region.
Yes, they needed to decommission Carisbrook and build a stadium within walking distance of where students live. But a roof was extravagant.Now Christchurch is feeling the need to compete with Dunedin. They have to have the best stadium in the South Island. There is some rationale to that too.. will Dunedin continue to get Test matches ahead of Christchurch etc?
Everything would be perfectly fine if Dunedin and Christchurch had just built stadiums like FMG Stadium in Hamilton
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@Duluth said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Everything would be perfectly fine if Dunedin and Christchurch had just built stadiums like FMG Stadium in Hamilton
Ain't that the truth. Chch was too ambitious in wanting a covered stadium to appease all parties, so the cost was always going to be a factor, and get costlier the longer it took to build.
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@mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Duluth said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Just build some stands around a rugby field. Forget about a roof and indoor concerts etc
The locals are used to the conditions in winter. Plus the elements are part of the home ground advantage for when a team like the Reds visit
couple of BBQs
Chilly Bin full of Cantab Draftfucking sorted.
Chase the sheep off the fluffybunny half an hour before kickoff.
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Should they not just abandon the coveted idea? I only know 3 covered rugby stadia: Dunedin, Cardiff (optional) and Racing 92 in Paris. Go for 30000 uncovered and just get it done!
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@Billy-Tell said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Should they not just abandon the coveted idea? I only know 3 covered rugby stadia: Dunedin, Cardiff (optional) and Racing 92 in Paris. Go for 30000 uncovered and just get it done!
at very least look at options where it could be added down the track
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https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
Enough naysayers will now have a voice so I am expecting the project to at least be paused for further consultation. Christchurch ain't getting a stadium to be proud of.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
Enough naysayers will now have a voice so I am expecting the project to at least be paused for further consultation. Christchurch ain't getting a stadium
to be proud of.So a newer smaller cheaper design, taking how long to implement? Ten years?
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over 11k responses in 4 days, plenty of people having their say
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
over 11k responses in 4 days, plenty of people having their say
It'll probably delay it by another decade just to go through all the responses
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25,000 people submitted.
and this got published too
New Christchurch stadium report raises 'critical issues', budget concerns
Serious allegations have been made about the Christchurch stadium’s governance, budget and systems by the project’s former director in a newly unear...
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Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.
Submissions show strong support for increasing stadium budget
The people have spoken - and most want to increase the planned Christchurch stadium budget by another $150 million.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.
Submissions show strong support for increasing stadium budget
The people have spoken - and most want to increase the planned Christchurch stadium budget by another $150 million.
Wow I’m surprised, good news
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@Machpants so am i if im honest
they do need to get on with it now, one way or the other, theyd probably cop less flak if theyd build a smaller or uncovered one ages ago rather than dangling this awesome option out there but not actually building it
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who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?
Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium
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@taniwharugby this is what the council probably wanted, get buy in for increasing the budget so they can get a fixed price negotiated and hand it all off to someone else, if it comes in under budget (ie wasted money) they get to say they asked and everyone was fine with it...and if it goes over then its the contractors problem
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@taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:
who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?
Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium
actually read it
Bragg said securing this contract meant there was a “very, very low” chance of ratepayers having to stump up more money in the future, if councillors decide to spend an additional $150 million now.not exactly "Fixed" then is it!
