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@nostrildamus said in Royal drama:
@sparky said in Royal drama:
At last some self-awareness from one of the ex-royals:
Rather than winning the public over, what about allowing your elderly inlaws probably too gone to travel themselves to see their grandchildren?
Why worry about winning the public over? She could hang out with Boris and enjoy a few Downing St parties
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@paekakboyz said in Royal drama:
@canefan fucker!! now I have to clean coffee off my keyboard!!
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@booboo When I saw the official photo of he for her birthday I thought that they'd taken it with her horses so she can hold on to them and stand up.
After a lifetime of unstinting service to the UK and Commonwealth she doesn't want to be seen in a wheelchair. Fair enough too.
Also quite pertinent dressed in black - mourning Phillip?
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Not a great one for Royal palaver, but fuck me, the Jubilee Parade was something else.
Some amazing costumes and dancing and the performers really having a ball. Amazing stuff.
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It was superb
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I generally don't give a shit about the Royal Institution, right up until some filthy peasant politician starts agitating to remove it. And then my question is; what with and why?
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@antipodean said in Royal drama:
I generally don't give a shit about the Royal Institution, right up until some filthy peasant politician starts agitating to remove it. And then my question is; what with and why?
i think with nothing...because this largely/almost entirely symbolic...and because it costs a fortune...in saying that i dont mind the monarchy...maybe not the individuals other than queeny...but the idea of one definitely adds something
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@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
@antipodean said in Royal drama:
I generally don't give a shit about the Royal Institution, right up until some filthy peasant politician starts agitating to remove it. And then my question is; what with and why?
i think with nothing...because this largely/almost entirely symbolic...and because it costs a fortune...in saying that i dont mind the monarchy...maybe not the individuals other than queeny...but the idea of one definitely adds something
I thought that had been debunked, and it can be shown that the monarchy easily generates more economic activity than it costs? In true Fern fashion I haven't looked it up....
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@antipodean said in Royal drama:
I generally don't give a shit about the Royal Institution, right up until some filthy peasant politician starts agitating to remove it. And then my question is; what with and why?
I really can't stand the soap opera aspects of it, but I think, constitutionally, it seems to work well.
Better someone who's spent his/her life meeting & understanding people from all walks of life than electing or appointing some professional politician
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That and providing "soft" power globally. When the Queen visited Ireland a few years back, she generated more good-will and publicity than any number of politician's visits.
Also do a pretty good job in bringing together different parts of society and supporting often forgotten, but important, causes. There's loads of little things that Charles & his missus do in Cornwall, like supporting community-run village shops, which makes a big difference to people's lives.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
@TeWaio oh, id have no idea in reality, what money do they generate? like drawing tourists to the UK?
This was a study done in 2017:
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@antipodean said in Royal drama:
I generally don't give a shit about the Royal Institution, right up until some filthy peasant politician starts agitating to remove it. And then my question is; what with and why?
@TeWaio
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Royal drama:
That and providing "soft" power globally. When the Queen visited Ireland a few years back, she generated more good-will and publicity than any number of politician's visits.
Also do a pretty good job in bringing together different parts of society and supporting often forgotten, but important, causes. There's loads of little things that Charles & his missus do in Cornwall, like supporting community-run village shops, which makes a big difference to people's lives.
definitely not saying they dont have value...or at least the queen, its just had to compare those more intaginable things to their straight up cost, i read yesterday the the government give the monarchy somewhere between 30 and 40 million every year in the form of a grant and thats on top of what they generate for them selves as huge land owners
as i say, might very well be worth it, but republican just see that cost i think
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@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
i read yesterday the the government give the monarchy somewhere between 30 and 40 million every year in the form of a grant
Used to be called the Civil List. The money is a small part of the £500m p.a. income from the Crown Estates which were given to the government 200+ years ago. It only covers the Queens expenses, upkeep of Royal Parks etc, I think. Charles and others are funded by income from the Duchy or Cornwall, I think
and thats on top of what they generate for them selves as huge land owners
They don't actually own much though. Most of the income is used to support various projects and they are taxed like everyone else.
as i say, might very well be worth it, but republican just see that cost i think
I think it's less to do with costs and more to do with a desire for change and be "modern".