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    @Stargazer so he's basically a commissar. That feels like a terrible title because he's got more to offer in a rugby sense than that

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    @Steven-Harris yeah, as I have been saying I have sympathy for Moore as he was seemingly doing his job without coordinated support preparing players for a 'professional' environment.
    Long term first teamers and ex Sevens players are the ones that, as a whole, can't see what the issues were because they were brought up in pro set ups.
    It wasn't just TK but quite a few of the squad that brought up issues with the lack of organisation and communication unless they were in the firsts. That falls on NZR and the people they 'shoulder-tapped' but Moore was dragged down with them.
    I think it was clear that a big shake up is/was needed and it is sad that this had to be the way that started it.
    There is still a missing piece of the puzzle which is age-grade rep teams that do more than just assemble and play a one-off. They should be the tier below FPC and Super needs to be a bigger thing.

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    @Steven-Harris It looks like she's off to the next province.

    This is from the (Wellington focused) club rugby website:

    Welcome to Wellington club rugby Te Kura Ngata-Aerengamate, who made her debut on the Norths bench on Saturday, joining her sister and lock Te Amohaere . Te Kura comes from the Counties Manukau Heat and is a recent former Black Ferns hooker. She is with Norths for the rest of the club season and could be in line to play for the Wellington Pride in the Farah Palmer Cup.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Steven-Harris It looks like she's off to the next province.

    This is from the (Wellington focused) club rugby website:

    Welcome to Wellington club rugby Te Kura Ngata-Aerengamate, who made her debut on the Norths bench on Saturday, joining her sister and lock Te Amohaere . Te Kura comes from the Counties Manukau Heat and is a recent former Black Ferns hooker. She is with Norths for the rest of the club season and could be in line to play for the Wellington Pride in the Farah Palmer Cup.

    Would any team be that interested in her?

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    Updated:

    Black Ferns vs Australia, Monday 6 June, 2.45PM, Tauranga Domain, Tauranga

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    Black Ferns "Pacific Four Series" squad announcement live (from 10.30am, Wed):

    https://fb.watch/cNpLP2C9ow/

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    No Les Elder in the squad. Ruahei Demant is the new captain.

    Ruby Tui in the sqaud for the first time.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    No Les Elder in the squad. Ruahei Demant is the new captain.

    Smith and co aren't off to a good start then. I don't see Demant as the best option to start at 1st 5 or 2nd 5.

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    @Bovidae I was thinking exactly the same thing. Maybe she's a good leader? 🤷🏽♂

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    Also interesting to hear that Wayne Smith et al didn't apply for any position in the BF set-up. They offered their assistance without being asked and that's how they got their roles.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae I was thinking exactly the same thing. Maybe she's a good leader? 🤷🏽♂

    Is she related to Reed Prinsep?

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    Demant was the Blues captain wasn't she? She is a qualified lawyer, and speaks well, but I would have preferred someone who is guaranteed to start. She isn't IMO.

    That said, where do they now play her because I don't think she is a recognised goal kicker, as Cocksedge won't play the full 80 mins.

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    A bit gutted not to see Harono Te Iringa in there after her dominant performances for Manawa. Black Ferns lacked physicality last year and she can bring that physicality.

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    It's now also clear why Ruby Tui isn't in the BF7s squad. She (understandably) had to chose between playing XVs and the RWC, and playing 7s and the RWC Sevens and Commonwealth Sevens. She chose XVs,

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    Waiting for the media release. Here's the image:

    alt text

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    Eloise Blackwell is another big omission. No Hazel Tubic either.

    Those unavailable because of injury are Charmaine McMenamin, Aleisha-Pearl Nelson, Grace Brooker, Kelsie Wills and Kennedy Simon.

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    Media release: https://www.allblacks.com/news/31-strong-black-ferns-squad-named-for-home-june-test-series/


    The Black Ferns team is (Age/Super Club/Province/Test caps);

    Hookers
    Luka Connor (25, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty, 4)
    Natalie Delamere (25, Matatū, Bay of Plenty, new cap)
    Georgia Ponsonby (22, Matatū, Canterbury, 2)


    Props
    Lucy Anderson (30, Matatū, Canterbury, new cap)
    Tanya Kalounivale (23, Chiefs, Waikato, new cap)
    Pip Love (32, Matatū, Canterbury, 15)
    Angel Mulu (22, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty, new cap)
    Krystal Murray (28, Blues, Northland, 1)
    Leilani Perese (29, Counties Manukau, 11)
    Amy Rule (21, Matatū, Canterbury, 3)


    Locks
    Chelsea Bremner (27, Matatū, Canterbury, 0)
    Joanah Ngan Woo (26, Hurricanes, Wellington, 5)
    Maiakawanakaulani Roos (20, Blues, Auckland, 3)


    Loose Forwards
    Alana Bremner (25, Matatū, Canterbury, 3)
    Tafito Lafaele (21, Blues, Auckland, new cap)
    Liana Mikaele Tu'u (20, Blues, Auckland, 4)
    Kaipo Olsen-Baker (19, Hurricanes, Manawatu, new cap)
    Kendra Reynolds (29, Matatū, Bay of Plenty, 1)


    Halfbacks
    Ariana Bayler (25, Chiefs, Waikato, 4)
    Kendra Cocksedge (33, Matatū, Canterbury, 57)
    Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu (30, Chiefs, Counties Manukau, 6)


    Inside Backs
    Ruahei Demant (27, Blues, Auckland, 15) – captain
    Amy du Plessis (22, Matatū, Canterbury, 0)
    Carla Hohepa (36, Chiefs, Waikato, 28)
    Patricia Maliepo (19, Blues, Auckland, 3)
    Chelsea Semple (29, Chiefs, Waikato, 26)


    Outside Backs
    Renee Holmes (22, Matatū, Waikato, 1)
    Ayesha Leti-I'iga (23, Hurricanes, Wellington, 12)
    Cheyelle Robins-Reti (25, Hurricanes, Waikato, 3)
    Grace Steinmetz (24, Matatū, Canterbury, 0)
    Ruby Tui (30, Chiefs, Counties Manukau, new cap)


    Broadcast

    All matches of the Pacific Four Series will be broadcast live on Spark Sport

    Not happy about that! ⬆


    Schedule

    Black Ferns vs Australia, Monday 6 June, 2.45PM, Tauranga Domain, TAURANGA

    Black Ferns vs Canada, Sunday 12 June, 2.45PM, Trusts Arena, Waitakere AUCKLAND

    Blacks Ferns vs USA, Saturday 18 June, 4.00PM, Semenoff Stadium, WHANGAREI

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    @Bovidae said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    Eloise Blackwell is another big omission. No Hazel Tubic either.

    Those unavailable because of injury are Charmaine McMenamin, Aleisha-Pearl Nelson, Grace Brooker, Kelsie Wills and Kennedy Simon.

    Tubic, especially, really surprises me. She's probably the best goal kicker we have.

    Obviously, there may be good reasons other than injury that may prevent players from being named: pregnancy, their regular day jobs are just two examples. Some players may be able to quit their regular jobs for a pro rugby contract for 2022, but -IIRC - Tubic is a farmer and that may not be so easy. There's way too much uncertainty as to what the plans are for professional women's rugby after the World Cup.

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    This explains some of the challenges the women face.

    Joanah Ngan-Woo, Luka Connor and Tanya Kalounivale have all recently left behind their day jobs and signed professional contracts for the remainder of 2022.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    It's now also clear why Ruby Tui isn't in the BF7s squad. She (understandably) had to chose between playing XVs and the RWC, and playing 7s and the RWC Sevens and Commonwealth Sevens. She chose XVs,

    She tweeted as much over the weekend.

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