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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Started a game at the WC as you mentioned.

    Playing 1st 5 against Namibia is probably similar to playing there in an NPC game. Remember that TJP later played at 1st 5 in the same game.

    I’m not arguing for him to play there?

    I wasn't suggesting you were.

    I'd be happy to see JB given a go at 2nd 5 as well. There is the potential to have a much better, and more dangerous, backline than last year if the right players are chosen.

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    One thing I am pretty certain is having Mounga and Havili both start for the ABs would be a mistake.
    Both are jinky players with little direct running ability and both (especially Mounga) aren't the greatest defenders.

    (which means Foster has them as the first names on the team sheet)

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    1. Aaron
    2. Beaudy
    3. Clarke
    4. Jordie
    5. Rieko
    6. Reece
    7. Jordan

    That's a starting backline I want to see. Power, size, speed and elusiveness. Reece is easily the best right wing in New Zealand. Jordan is too good not to start at fullback where he can get more opportunities. Clarke is the form left winger. Rieko is the form centre and has pace to burn. Aaron's pass can ensure Beaudy can run into space and if he needs to bail out, Jordie has the size and skillset to get over the advantage line.

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    #728

    As I've written earlier in this thread, it's all about balance and whichever players complement each other and gel best.

    I'd like to see in at least one test a 10-12-13 trio of Mo'unga, Havili and Fainga'anuku. I don't care whether that's as the starting trio or for a significant part of the second half, but I think it's worth seeing how that goes in a test match. It worked a treat in the Crusaders win over the Chiefs.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'd like to see in at least one test a 10-12-13 trio of Mo'unga, Havili and Fainga'anuku.

    You're trolling aren't you?

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    1. Aaron
    2. Beaudy
    3. Clarke
    4. Jordie
    5. Rieko
    6. Reece
    7. Jordan

    That backline rocks.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

    1. Aaron
    2. Beaudy
    3. Clarke
    4. Jordie
    5. Rieko
    6. Reece
    7. Jordan

    That's a starting backline I want to see. Power, size, speed and elusiveness. Reece is easily the best right wing in New Zealand. Jordan is too good not to start at fullback where he can get more opportunities. Clarke is the form left winger. Rieko is the form centre and has pace to burn. Aaron's pass can ensure Beaudy can run into space and if he needs to bail out, Jordie has the size and skillset to get over the advantage line.

    No Havilli or Bridge. I love it

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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    As I've written earlier in this thread, it's all about balance and whichever players complement each other and gel best.

    I'd like to see in at least one test a 10-12-13 trio of Mo'unga, Havili and Fainga'anuku. I don't care whether that's as the starting trio or for a significant part of the second half, but I think it's worth seeing how that goes in a test match. It worked a treat in the Crusaders win over the Chiefs.

    RM and Havilli are poor on defence at super level, so playing them together at the level above is not a great idea.

    And against a willing defence LM was pretty anonymous. RI has been streets ahead of him at 13 and CC ahead of him at 11. I’d have him in the squad ahead of Ennor though.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @kirwan who is LM?

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    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    @kirwan who is LM?

    LF maybe?

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    @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    @kirwan who is LM?

    LF maybe?

    That makes sense.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @kirwan LF played mostly on the wing; I'm suggesting they try them together at 10-12-13 (as in the Chiefs v Crusaders game, and where they finished last night). When they started ringing in the changes in the second half, and he moved to the midfield, the Crusaders started playing much better, including all the players I mentioned.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @kirwan LF played mostly on the wing; I'm suggesting they try them together at 10-12-13 (as in the Chiefs v Crusaders game, and where they finished last night). When they started ringing in the changes in the second half, and he moved to the midfield, the Crusaders started playing much better, including all the players I mentioned.

    At the next level, I believe Rieko has cemented his place at 13, which means we need the right 12 for him, not the right 13 to make RM and Havili work.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @kirwan LF played mostly on the wing; I'm suggesting they try them together at 10-12-13 (as in the Chiefs v Crusaders game, and where they finished last night). When they started ringing in the changes in the second half, and he moved to the midfield, the Crusaders started playing much better, including all the players I mentioned.

    At the next level, I believe Rieko has cemented his place at 13, which means we need the right 12 for him, not the right 13 to make RM and Havili work.

    We'd still need Rieko's pace to cover their defence...

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    At the next level, I believe Rieko has cemented his place at 13

    If ALB isn't playing. And no player plays each and every game.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    #740

    Hopefully the ABs have given the Canes the word to play Jordie at 12 for the rest of the season. Wouldn't want him to be learning the trade at test level because if it doesn't consistently come off we might be in a bit of a pickle for the WC.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @stargazer just taking a leaf out of the Crusaders book when it comes to arrogance.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by
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    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:

    @kirwan who is LM?

    Combination of bartman typing syndrome and posting while watching TV 🙂

    LF.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @kirwan LF played mostly on the wing; I'm suggesting they try them together at 10-12-13 (as in the Chiefs v Crusaders game, and where they finished last night). When they started ringing in the changes in the second half, and he moved to the midfield, the Crusaders started playing much better, including all the players I mentioned.

    And I’m pointing out the channel between 10 and 12 would be a revolving door at Test level, and LF at 13 is well behind RI.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to number9 on last edited by
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    @number9 The Fern is too much of a hostile environment to them to be arrogant on here. But maybe you mean in the real world. That could be entirely true.

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