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    @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

    Blues prop Nepo Laulala has been suspended for three weeks after his red card for a dangerous cleanout in their win over Moana Pasifika on Tuesday.

    As expected.

    And fully deserved.

    fully deserved the full 6 or 8 weeks!

    Nope.

    This wasn’t a head clash, or someone dipping in the tackle. He lined up a player in a ruck, with his shoulder and his arm tucked back like he was Owen Farrell. There is no mitigation, he has previous (re and yellow last few years), and don’t give me the shit of getting time of for remorse/not picking nose during the hearing/etc. That was a grub shot, not poor technique or highly dynamic situation, and deserves the full sanction IMO

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    My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by taniwharugby
    #1020

    @billy-tell my interest is still there, but the format sucks...hopefully with life returning to some form of normalcy we should also see a better draw.

    As much of a blues fan as anyone could be, and a fan of the introduction of MP someone might be, seeing these teams play twice in a week that isn't a finals series...

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
    #1021

    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.

    See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.

    See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.

    How often do Ireland do a test series in nz? How often do NZ super rugby sides meet? Just not comparable imo.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
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    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.

    See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.

    How often do Ireland do a test series in nz? How often do NZ super rugby sides meet? Just not comparable imo.

    But when we do get a series it can be three in a row. Super Rugby may have eg Blues v Chiefs twice in a two month period with a possibility that they may meet in finals.

    I think we have got too used to hit and run games or 'series' of two in a row at most. Tours of a series of one-off tests.
    Over the last couple of decades we have ended up in a place where coaches seem to 'move on' to the next challenge quickly and although they have reviews, the don't get to test the adjustments or improvements that they identify.
    Those adjustments, if proven, can set teams and leaders up with the tools to change during games.
    As an example Chiefs v Crusaders. Crusaders in quick succession. Crusaders completely changed up their tactics and threw everything at the breakdown in the second match. Those players now have that proven tool in their arsenal to apply should they find themselves in a game one situation again where they had tried to absorb and hold out.
    I just find it interesting and find value in repeated games. Not ad nauseum of course but I dont see the issue with the structure of NZ teams playing each other a couple of times.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #1024

    @crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.

    See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.

    How often do Ireland do a test series in nz? How often do NZ super rugby sides meet? Just not comparable imo.

    But when we do get a series it can be three in a row. Super Rugby may have eg Blues v Chiefs twice in a two month period with a possibility that they may meet in finals.

    I think we have got too used to hit and run games or 'series' of two in a row at most. Tours of a series of one-off tests.
    Over the last couple of decades we have ended up in a place where coaches seem to 'move on' to the next challenge quickly and although they have reviews, the don't get to test the adjustments or improvements that they identify.
    Those adjustments, if proven, can set teams and leaders up with the tools to change during games.
    As an example Chiefs v Crusaders. Crusaders in quick succession. Crusaders completely changed up their tactics and threw everything at the breakdown in the second match. Those players now have that proven tool in their arsenal to apply should they find themselves in a game one situation again where they had tried to absorb and hold out.
    I just find it interesting and find value in repeated games. Not ad nauseum of course but I dont see the issue with the structure of NZ teams playing each other a couple of times.

    I suppose it's that NZ sides tend to play fairly similar styles, so you end up watching 3 games which are somewhat the same. Whereas when you had the SA sides (when they were good back in the day), it added some variety. I suppose it's due to covid, but I wish the NZ sides were playing Aussie ones this weekend and not each other. Again.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by Duluth
    #1025

    @billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:

    I suppose it's due to covid, but I wish the NZ sides were playing Aussie ones this weekend and not each other. Again.

    The original draw was a better competition. Here's a link to it: Original 2022 SR draw

    There was more variety in the games being played each weekend, instead of front loading the derby matches. The kiwi v kiwi matches would've been bigger events because they were spaced out etc

    Covid destroyed that. The organisers of the comp deserve some credit for how flexible they have been. I was pessimistic when the season started and assumed we wouldn't see as much rugby as we have

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    #1026

    There are few good ones, this year.

    I'd like to see this.

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    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    There are few good ones, this year.

    I'd like to see this.

    Imagine trying to ref that πŸ™‚

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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
    #1028

    @hooroo Probably need two refs, too. And 4 ARs.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @hooroo Probably need two refs, too. And 4 ARs.

    6,7&8's heads would explode. Follow the ball for linking play or go on defense!!

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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by Crucial
    #1030

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @hooroo Probably need two refs, too. And 4 ARs.

    6,7&8's heads would explode. Follow the ball for linking play or go on defense!!

    Imagine how the refs would handle simultaneous scoring.
    Worse still imagine TJ and Marshall calling it.

    Nisbo would be sitting in the corner of the commentary box crying cos his head hurt too much.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
    #1032

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    There are few good ones, this year.

    I'd like to see this.

    Imagine trying to ref that πŸ™‚

    HaHa thats one of the best from today

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    Machpants
    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #1033

    @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    There are few good ones, this year.

    I'd like to see this.

    Imagine trying to ref that πŸ™‚

    HaHa thats one of the best from today

    Not a high bar, Apr fool sis so shit

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #1034

    @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    There are few good ones, this year.

    I'd like to see this.

    Imagine trying to ref that πŸ™‚

    HaHa thats one of the best from today

    Not a high bar, Apr fool sis so shit

    Made me laugh Mate

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    Machpants
    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #1035

    @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @chris said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @hooroo said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    There are few good ones, this year.

    I'd like to see this.

    Imagine trying to ref that πŸ™‚

    HaHa thats one of the best from today

    Not a high bar, Apr fool sis so shit

    Made me laugh Mate

    I'll check it out in a few hours/beers time πŸ˜‰

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #1036

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2022:

    Clarke will have a 3 week holiday surely?

    Blues said they will fight suspension.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @tim said in Blues 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2022:

    Clarke will have a 3 week holiday surely?

    Blues said they will fight suspension.

    I'd say why bother, but as we've seen with the Banks' red card, why not fight it? The interesting aspect about player safety is if Clarke got a finger to the ball, it would just be an unfortunate incident.

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